which engine??
i just got a truggy roller and i am tring to figure out what engine would be good. i have been racing monster trucks for about 6mos. i don't have the budget that some have so please keep that in mind. i was looking at the mach 427 or the O.S. 21VG. Are these good choices??
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[QUOTE=porkey;4859125]Right here one of the best engines out there it is a little over your budget but it is a very good motor
one guy at the track that it race at has one its fast, reliable and really good http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPNM7&P=0 |
yeah, thats way over my budget!!! i was talking about the non V-spec VG
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Porkey: The guy says he doesn't have a big budget like some and you post one of if not the most expensive .21's ever made......:weird:
1lowtaco: The 427 would be a decent engine but I would skip the vg. The vg hardly has any torque and is an okay budget buggy engine but for a larger heavier truggy it just can't pull it's weight very well. Since your working with a little bit lower budget I would stick with a .26-.28 budget engine. They will give you the most bang for your buck and have the torque you need for a truggy. Any of these engines would be great: Axial .28 spec 1s Axial .28 RR Losi 427 Mach .26 Sportwerks .26 V2 Picco P3 .28 (Italian made powerhouse) LRP Spec 3 .28 (I run this in my lst and it's insane) Any of those listed would be more than adequate for you and all are under $200........:nod: |
THANKS FOR THE INFO. I HAVE TALKED TO GUYS I RACE WITH AD THEY SAY THE AXIAL MOTORS ARE HIT AND MISS ON GETTING A GOOD ONE. THE 427 AND THE MACH .26 ARE SIMILIAR, CORRECT?I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE SPORTWERKS OR THE LRP. AND DID NOT KNOW WHICH PICCO WOULD BE GOOD FOR A TRUGGY. ALSO, SOME HAVE TOLD ME TO GO WITH A .21 AND OTHERS SAY .28 WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? PROS AND CONS
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Originally Posted by MattP
(Post 4859152)
Porkey: The guy says he doesn't have a big budget like some and you post one of if not the most expensive .21's ever made......:weird:
1lowtaco: The 427 would be a decent engine but I would skip the vg. The vg hardly has any torque and is an okay budget buggy engine but for a larger heavier truggy it just can't pull it's weight very well. Since your working with a little bit lower budget I would stick with a .26-.28 budget engine. They will give you the most bang for your buck and have the torque you need for a truggy. Any of these engines would be great: Axial .28 spec 1s Axial .28 RR Losi 427 Mach .26 Sportwerks .26 V2 Picco P3 .28 (Italian made powerhouse) LRP Spec 3 .28 (I run this in my lst and it's insane) Any of those listed would be more than adequate for you and all are under $200........:nod: |
When the axial's first came out they did have some issues but the more recent ones seem to be good. The major thing with them was the carb needed to be sealed.
The 427's and the mach's I have never heard of any problems. I have owned both and seen a ton of them run and they all were flawless. The sportwerks v2 is basically a mach 26. The LRP is a very nice engine that I believe is made by SH engines. The Picco P3 .28 has tons of power everywhere through the rpm band. As far as which engine is right for you comes down to a couple factors. The thing with having a budget means you kinda have trade offs in a way. You can get a budget .26-.28 that will have the same if not quite a bit more power than a high strung expensive .21 or you can get a budget .21 that is more suited for a lighter buggy. The jammin/picco .21 that's out now is a nice powerful engine for the money. It's basically the same engine as the old trinity drake .21's were. It's also right around $220 or so. Most people that race a lot prefer a nice strong (often pricey) .21 in a truggy because of fuel mileage and they are often times a lot smoother than a torquey .28 is. It's a lot easier to put down fast laps with an engine that is controllable down low than one with an explosive bottom end like some 28's have. |
Originally Posted by MattP
(Post 4859200)
Most people that race a lot prefer a nice strong (often pricey) .21 in a truggy because of fuel mileage and they are often times a lot smoother than a torquey .28 is. It's a lot easier to put down fast laps with an engine that is controllable down low than one with an explosive bottom end like some 28's have.
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Originally Posted by MattP
(Post 4859152)
Porkey: The guy says he doesn't have a big budget like some and you post one of if not the most expensive .21's ever made......:weird:
1lowtaco: The 427 would be a decent engine but I would skip the vg. The vg hardly has any torque and is an okay budget buggy engine but for a larger heavier truggy it just can't pull it's weight very well. Since your working with a little bit lower budget I would stick with a .26-.28 budget engine. They will give you the most bang for your buck and have the torque you need for a truggy. Any of these engines would be great: Axial .28 spec 1s Axial .28 RR Losi 427 Mach .26 Sportwerks .26 V2 Picco P3 .28 (Italian made powerhouse) LRP Spec 3 .28 (I run this in my lst and it's insane) Any of those listed would be more than adequate for you and all are under $200........:nod: |
Originally Posted by porkey
(Post 4859125)
Right here one of the best engines out there it is a little over your budget but it is a very good motor
one guy at the track that it race at has one its fast, reliable and really good http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPNM7&P=0 You don't even have a nitro, yet you're giving advice --- again??? WHY DO YOU INSIST ON TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU HAVE NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH??? |
mach 427
i would say mach 427,thats a good starting point ,i have a good experience w/ this ,put it on my lsp before n you will be happy from bottom to the top..........n i believe you can find this motor around for less than $100...............
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were have you seen them for less than 100.00??
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Originally Posted by cracka
(Post 4859319)
NOT AGAIN!!!
You don't even have a nitro, yet you're giving advice --- again??? WHY DO YOU INSIST ON TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU HAVE NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH??? i wasnt giving advice to you i was giving it to the person who started this thread thats what forums are about so STOP harassing me |
Originally Posted by porkey
(Post 4860365)
um yes i did have a nitro for about 2 years in tell i sold.
i wasnt giving advice to you i was giving it to the person who started this thread thats what forums are about so STOP harassing me yet insists on giving advice regarding them :lol: |
Originally Posted by cracka
(Post 4860370)
doesn't own a nitro
yet insists on giving advice regarding them :lol: |
Jammin JPX .28, one of the best engines out, full blown race mill, (not sport) 7 ports, $200. I run it in my Hyper ST pro, and I will never even try another engine for it.
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Mach 26 is a super engine for the price ($90-$120 depending on what you find). Has the grunt like a 28, but has a little more top end then the 28s. Plus they are very inexpensive to rebuild every 6-8 gallons.
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The dynamite .28, this motor with a JP2 and ODO77 plugs was a monster in my truggy. Tons of bottom and fast on the straights, decent fuel mileage also. I ran it in a Jammin crt.
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RB S5 or the S7
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/7060 or the S7 http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/23022 If you look around you can find them both even cheaper. I bought my S5 new off E-BAY for 180.00 Both are great motors,easy to tune plenty of power, and good mileage |
Skip high dollar engines!! Thats all they are!!
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Originally Posted by Rocket XUT
(Post 4861630)
RB S5 or the S7
Both are great motors,easy to tune plenty of power, and good mileage |
Originally Posted by Fear
(Post 4861748)
Agreed. I love my S7, although it does run a bit warmer (245-250) than some others I've used in the past.
They like to run a bit warmer than other engines. I was always told tune by smoke not temps.Once I followed that advice the motors scream. Mine ran about 250-260.But it had penty of smoke. Sometimes trying to tune into a magic window of low 200 range does nothing give you a dog motor and a ton of frusratation. |
Originally Posted by Rocket XUT
(Post 4861910)
They like to run a bit warmer than other engines. I was always told tune by smoke not temps.Once I followed that advice the motors scream. Mine ran about 250-260.But it had penty of smoke. Sometimes trying to tune into a magic window of low 200 range does nothing give you a dog motor and a ton of frusratation.
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thanks for all the advice (even the ones that don't own a nitro right now:lol:). but i bought a 427 today from a guy i race with. he sold it to me for 100.00. just rebuilt and modded with a kingzhead cooling head. i have seen this motor ru before the rebuild and it screams!!! i can't wait to get it o the track!!!
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Good deal if your stoked on it that all that matters. I got to thinking Another good motor Ive seen run Never owned one myself is the GS/XTM 24.7
looks good on the track and seems very easy to tune |
I have had 4 different motors this year in 3 cars. They were 3 nov's and the last one was a Jammin .28. I really like the Jammin .28, easy to break-in and tune. I would buy another one when this one dies' and i want to put a .21 jammin into my buggy soon.
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Originally Posted by 1lowtaco
(Post 4862411)
thanks for all the advice (even the ones that don't own a nitro right now:lol:). but i bought a 427 today from a guy i race with. he sold it to me for 100.00. just rebuilt and modded with a kingzhead cooling head. i have seen this motor ru before the rebuild and it screams!!! i can't wait to get it o the track!!!
Let us know how it works out for you. :) |
I would recommend the OS 21VG
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