Jerseyboy

Ive been racing the Jammin X1 for 4 years now and its imo the best. I have a hobby shop and test drive meny new models and look at parts availability, cost, setup, handling looks etc.
The Xray we all hope is a better buggy than any out there. Remember that Xray buggies just couldnt fit the bill as a top performer. So what xray did now was basically after several attempts at making the car work just copied a Losi type design.
Xray Durability no question as parts qaulity is the best in the bussiness. You probably buy the 808 and in 6months it will be an old model.

At races and seeing guys constantly setting up their car tells me that the car is crap. The X1 runs with the same setup in 90% of conditions and wins.
Check the X1 wins in the international and local arena. The best top car a racer can buy. I call it no mess no fuss just racing.

RC Huligan

The buggy division is highly competitive. The reason you see so many new models more often is a reflection of this. There would be no evolution if there were no new models.

Each track is different in their surface, technical points, jumps, duration, etc. If you want to use the same buggy on different tracks, you have to make tuning adjustments. At the recent Pre-Worlds race in Charlotte, drivers spent a bunch of time testing different tires because the track changed through the week of practice and races.

Murphster

I guess I'm not sure how having a car that responds and goes faster with tuning changes for different conditions makes it a bad car. IMO it makes it a better car, and the results of X-Ray team drivers in recent events and a relatively new car is promising. It looks to me to be just like what I said, good drivers are getting better with the car. Changing ackerman position from an open track to a tight track in consecutive weeks resulted in a solid car each weekend.

As far as copying, lets remember, you can run just about any Kyosho part on an X-1 CR. The only truly innovative car in the last few years has been the Losi.

Darth Smoke

Please note that the "car/buggy" itself will not make you a better driver in ALL aspects...it may be easier to tune, more agile, nimble..or just be the best out there....the best advice is get something you like..that is in your price range..and practice, practice, practice.....then when you are at a plateau then move up to a nicer/better/competitive buggy....basically get something you can afford, and find parts for. Id rather spend the cash on a good easy to understand radio/elec. equipment and plugs/fuel...than waste mucho cash on a buggy that is all tricked out. XRAY is great...Ive seen a couple of them and wanted one..and still do, however I love my X1X CR FTE...its got the bling bling for what I like and need. Ive even added a few options and still need some extra springs and tires.

DS

rmargiotta

iTrader: (59)

So the same car ranks 3rd and 8th? Ho Bao and Jammin?! Just trying to sort this post out... And somehow our customer service sucks even though the same guys you can call or PM are the same guys that race the car, instead of some automated answering system, then some rep?


My 2 cents:
The 808 is like driving with cheat codes, I instantly went faster, using the same parts race after race...
BTW, using only two optional parts.

KyLayfield

iTrader: (86)

HoBao is the same as Ofna, and Hong-Nor is the same as Jammin.

RC Huligan

I'm curious. What two optional parts are you using on your XRAY 808?

tony montana

iTrader: (76)

who cares if the jammin is based of the kanai 2 and 3. Imo, those were the best 2 1/8 buggies ever made

rmargiotta

iTrader: (59)

The front and rear aluminum hinge pin holders.

But the funny thing is the fronts are set to stock geometry, and the rears are stock except for one more degree of anti-squat. So you can just how many 'hop-ups' are on my car.


Isn't the name of an Ofna/HoBao/Hong Nor/Jammin' car country/region dependent?

I'm with you Tony, every car/model has their time, they all have 4 wheels, an engine and usually 4 shocks...

Owen RaCing

iTrader: (17)

The Jammin'

VERY Easy car to drive, its can be a awesome car getting in to racing because it does whats its asked in a relaxed way, not getting over excitied and turning off future drivers to our sport. The car is lazy, but being consistent in the same time frame. Pushing the car can result in good and bad feedback, but thats all per driver/ set-up.

The Xray

Never driven one, but I have driven my Losi. The losi and Xray are close, but not the same. (Dont get mad at me Xray guys, I know you understand what i say.) The car is great for a person on top of there game, and what it can do rewards the ace driver in you, but slip ups cost big time. But thats what ive read, and with my losi, which again is only close to the Xray.


Dont take this to hard, just my .02 . . .

arm2storm

iTrader: (25)

How is Hong Nor and Hobao the same?

Allow me to clarify, we are talking about buggies not brands and you can’t compare a Hyper 8.5 to a Jammin which is closely inspected and designed by Jay. In that case an RC8 is in the same league as a thunder tiger buggy? I don’t believe so. There are some exceptions. Remember, OFNA is a distributor only, for Hong Nor and HoBao

Now as far as X-ray’s customer service goes…… You guys never have an answer of when parts are coming in, everything is always on back order, and if you mention in the X-ray forum any other brand besides X-ray the thread gets deleted. Now, don’t tell me that doesn’t suck?

RC Huligan

If you mention RC Tech on the RC Universe forum, they delete it. I mentioned Twitter once and that got removed. If you were a brand and maintained a forum, how much discussion about competing brands would you allow on your forum?

DOMIT

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Interesting Rocco... I know your car looks really good on the track. So does Hunter's! A little too much for me to handle though. I'm thinking of switching to truggy... lol I drove James's truggy last weekend... (XT8) holy cow it turns as good as my buggy if not better! I didn't expect that at all... I expected it to be "lazy." Now I want one!

arm2storm

iTrader: (25)

I understand in some cases but when its in relation to the xray buggy it shouldn't matter.

Panther

iTrader: (8)

How old are you, 12??

I will agree that Xray's fit and finish is something that leads the RC Industry, but to make the claims that you are is absolutely ludicrous.

I take it that you must not follow the national scene at all. Taylor James just won the Pre-Worlds race at the Farm II in Charlotte with his Jammin' car.

OK, now on to your asinine post. First off, the Jammin X1X car is made by Hong-Nor, not Ofna. Ofna is merely a distributor, not a manufacturer. As far as quality goes, it's on par with any 1/8 buggy on the market and wears just as good if not better. I can't even begin to list all of the parts I had to replace on that Losi 8ight I had that wore out prematurely.

I've raced the Jammin' now for two years and have yet to replace any part other than a bulkhead that the bottom screw had stripped out. Of course that doesn't include wear items like bodies, tires and clutches, etc. Last year I raced the car just about every weekend along with practice during the week. This year, I've cut my racing schedule to every other week with minimal practice.

As far as parts availability go, the Xray struggles in LHS market if that is where you shop. Online shopping is totally different.

And your comment on the handling...It's by far the best handling car I've ever driven next to a MBX5. It's VERY consistent, and I can take the car to several different tracks and use the same setup with small changes to accommodate the track.

Also, another thing to consider the amount of support that Jammin' has. Alot of the drivers are VERY easy to get ahold of with technical support questions.