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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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Old 04-14-2014, 07:50 PM
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Well I got my Kyosho MP9 TKI3, in on wed waited to assemble it the weekend I had a race on Fri night. So I got up extra early and started my project. Now I know why I had to take out that second on my house this car is a-sum. The time that went into details for every area of this car. This is what you call a racers dream. Put all my KO-Propo radio gear in it. My OS Speed that has not even fully broke in. Put some on road GT tires to fill the car out in the front of my house WOW!, this thing needs a track. I really think this car will be hard to beat with top racers driving it. What I did for my shocks I pulled vacuum on the oil to take any air in system out. The shaft almost to fully retract position After bouncing it on the street never hit the ground, with ride height never change on me. I remember my Mugen changing very quickly. I believe the car handles so well with the TKI3 because of the time spent testing the shocks. Best shocks I have seen yet. I just can't say enough about the design of the Kyosho MP9 TKI3. I'm a believer now.
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What is the number of the option diaphragms? Thanks
Please!

Also, second time on the track I broke a shock end (the plastic part after the shock shaft); is this common? Any other brand fits? Thanks
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Also, second time on the track I broke a shock end (the plastic part after the shock shaft); is this common? Any other brand fits? Thanks
Make sure your using your droop screws and not letting the weight of the arm hang on nothing but the shock end.
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July 2013 but only used about 10 race days. just sticking to ebuggy
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...tki3-spec.html
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Originally Posted by hookem34
I used to run zero rebound using the optional bladders. After a long day of testing a few months ago, I found that I prefer 50% rebound (optional bladders) on the tracks I run on. Buggy felt more stable in the bumps and jumped much better.

Running zero rebound made the buggy feel a bit nervous as it tended to want to continue rolling more in the turns. At least that's my experience.

As with all things tuning related, it all comes down to how it feels for you. What feels good for a Pro may feel awkward for you....
He also installed shock limiters front and rear. Is this common? I've never heard of anyone using these on the tki3.
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I purchased my TKI3 from a friend. Prior to my purchase my fiend, whos mechanical work I trust more than my own, had completely rebuilt it for his own use. So I checked a couple things and took it to our local track.

Since then I have rebuilt it a handful of times and had different setups on it for different tracks. Most recently I have put the setup he gave me on it in preparation for a race at pur home track. The issue is it is not quite jumping the way it was before.

It seems to want to jump nose high now, where before I remember it jumping very nose heavy. I prefer the nose down flight.

My question is what could be causing this difference? Perhaps I have something hanging or sticking somewhere or maybe my friend made a slight modication to the setup and forgot about it.
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Originally Posted by Vinny Cancilla
He also installed shock limiters front and rear. Is this common? I've never heard of anyone using these on the tki3.


It may be completely normal for "him" to run internal limiters, but IMO most people who run 1/8 scale nitro buggies do not. I guess the advantage's of using internal limiters is that they will provide constant droop over a longer period of time versus using the droop screws only and they may prevent the bottom shock eyelet from ripping off when using max droop.

I have not had any issues with my droop changing during a long main or practice session. I have also never broken a bottom shock eyelet in the 3 years I have been running the Kyosho buggy.
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And I have seen Dan drive LMAO Jk bud
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Originally Posted by Vinny Cancilla
He also installed shock limiters front and rear. Is this common? I've never heard of anyone using these on the tki3.
That limiter can be used for two purposes. #1 obviously limit droop. #2 makes for a smoother shock function since the piston never gets to the bottom of the shock body were it squeezes out the shock oil and creates a slight vacuum.
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Originally Posted by Panda-PR
What is the number of the option diaphragms? Thanks

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The diaphragms/bladders you want are from the TKI2 part number is:

KYOIF346-03

The bladders from the TKI3 are KYOIF346-09 which are very thin and collapse too easily.

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And I have seen Dan drive LMAO Jk bud
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Originally Posted by Drip
Make sure your using your droop screws and not letting the weight of the arm hang on nothing but the shock end.
Originally Posted by HH
The diaphragms/bladders you want are from the TKI2 part number is:

KYOIF346-03

The bladders from the TKI3 are KYOIF346-09 which are very thin and collapse too easily.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by HH
The diaphragms/bladders you want are from the TKI2 part number is:

KYOIF346-03

The bladders from the TKI3 are KYOIF346-09 which are very thin and collapse too easily.

Thanks for this info i was wondering about those bladders cause they always seemed to be collapsed when I rebuilt them and i had no idea anyone was running the ones off the TKI2
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Originally Posted by phillypete
I purchased my TKI3 from a friend. Prior to my purchase my fiend, whos mechanical work I trust more than my own, had completely rebuilt it for his own use. So I checked a couple things and took it to our local track.

Since then I have rebuilt it a handful of times and had different setups on it for different tracks. Most recently I have put the setup he gave me on it in preparation for a race at pur home track. The issue is it is not quite jumping the way it was before.

It seems to want to jump nose high now, where before I remember it jumping very nose heavy. I prefer the nose down flight.

My question is what could be causing this difference? Perhaps I have something hanging or sticking somewhere or maybe my friend made a slight modication to the setup and forgot about it.
Reset your ride height. My first guess would be to lower the rear, but it can be other factors. What is you current front and rear ride height, oils, springs? Jump profile and throttle finger can have an impact as well.
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Hey guys I was wondering if you can get the original body and battery and radio tray clips for the Kyosho tki3 kit. I have a problem of loosing body clips and any retaining clip in general.
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