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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by evolution03
Yeah what would you change for high bite indoor ? Im hopefully going with them to flowood
I HOPE U CAN ROLL WITH US K-BUGGY BRO!!!!!!!
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friends, the cv 91mm out? which put in place? 93mm? Can send in the model?
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Originally Posted by evolution03
Yeah what would you change for high bite indoor ? Im hopefully going with them to flowood
I run 5,7,3 for real high bite clay tracks, light blue springs all around, reduce droop all around, lower roll center in the front and lengthen camber links front and rear.

Works for me quite well
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Originally Posted by LOSIRACER77
hey guys have u all tried the kyosho lock nuts on ur buggys and stripped out the hex hub and the nut??? should i contract kyosho american for replacement??????
Every now and then you need to brush the hub and nut for dirt and grease.
U want to make sure you see the threads clearly
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i never ran high bite but i would think i'd start with tebos neo setup. that track looked smooth to me. just a though. good luck guys
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Originally Posted by LOSIRACER77
DID u read the deal with the kyosho lock nuts and the narrow rear hubs???
do u think kyosho would do something about it??

wouldnt think them weights or hubs would be in a wc kit, if it happeneds. i kinda see the harder rear arms and the turnbuckles in the kit and 93mm drive shafts at the most?
Just put a little grease on the hub thread and you will have no more problems with stripping the threads. Take a closer look at the instruction book and you will see the grease symbol indicating to grease the thread. You only need a tiny amount and you only need to apply the grease once to avoid any problems. The problem is caused by galling which is the threads friction welding and usually occurs when you try to remove the nut for the first time.
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Originally Posted by smelly62
Just put a little grease on the hub thread and you will have no more problems with stripping the threads. Take a closer look at the instruction book and you will see the grease symbol indicating to grease the thread. You only need a tiny amount and you only need to apply the grease once to avoid any problems. The problem is caused by galling which is the threads friction welding and usually occurs when you try to remove the nut for the first time.
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Even without checking in the manual, it's just common sense to put a little grease on the wheel hex threads. In fact, almost all metal-metal threaded parts should have some kind of lube (even if it's just a tiny amount) as it actually allows for a much more accurate torque reading (if using a torque wrench - not on an RC vehicle but anything full-size, like a car or bike pretty much requires grease on metal-metal threads if you ever want to get a half accurate torque measurement) and usually more torque is able to be applied than when not using some kind of lube.

As for our wheel hex threads, the first time you try putting on the wheel nuts once the hex threads have a little grease on them it's as if they just got teflon coated, the nut just spins on SO smoothly and easily. Just screw the but all the way onto the wheel hex and back it off once or twice and the grease will be spread all around the threads. You only need the smallest amount - I use a syringe and squirt out about 1-2mm of grease from the end of the syringe and smear that onto the top of the wheel hex threads.

I have never had a wheel come off or a wheel nut undo itself and I've never bothered to use nylock wheel nuts. Maybe the fact that I use wheel nuts with the 'grippy bits' on the back of the nut helps but even before I started using those style wheel nuts, still never had any probs.

One of the simplest and easiest ways to keep the wheel hex threads almost perfectly clean is to use the covered style of wheel nut. IMHO I reckon they look better too but that's just a bonus. Also stops the grub screw in the end of the universal from getting full of dirt and crap.

Hope that helps a bit.
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Originally Posted by J33
Is the 777 spot on to install or do i need to modify? Just ordered a couple from amain.
I'm not sure what is involved with fitting the 777 arms, I just noticed them on Jeromes car in a pic on Neobuggy a while back. I think he used them at the Euro champs.

I do intend to fit some to my club day car to try them out but haven't got around to it yet.

I saw that quite a few Kyoshos dnf due to front arm failure at the C Netic race a couple of weeks back but crashes on that track would be big crashes.

I am only assuming that Jerome fitted them for reliability reasons.
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I have seen these popping up on a few more cars for the front end. Where do they fall in the shock charts? Stiffer than the light blue?
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Default MP9 TDC (LSD) Diff Sets

Any body have driving experience with the MP9 TDC gear sets, part #IFW403.

I used to use them on the old MP7.5 but they have an additional part now. Its looks like a thick washer with a groove in it for the drive hub pin.


How do they go together? Does the spacer go between the diff case and the drive hub pin (underneath pin) or does it go on top of the pin?

Thanks
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The collar goes under the drive cup pin.

http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/in..._set_MP9_m.pdf

But what is the purpose of the collar and the main gears hollowed out to go over the collar?
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Originally Posted by hookem34
I have seen these popping up on a few more cars for the front end. Where do they fall in the shock charts? Stiffer than the light blue?
I don't see grey springs on the list, but maybe what looks grey is another color.

Here is the link to the Kyosho spring rate charts.

http://www.infernosonly.com/Kyosho_B...if348-1116.htm
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Originally Posted by hookem34
I have seen these popping up on a few more cars for the front end. Where do they fall in the shock charts? Stiffer than the light blue?
Yes Grey are stiffer than Blue by 1/2 a coil and they are working well for us on a medium grip track.
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New Kanai options today
Wide Hub (Front)

http://buggysrc.blogspot.com.es/2012...el-kyosho.html


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Originally Posted by SEF
I don't see grey springs on the list, but maybe what looks grey is another color.

Here is the link to the Kyosho spring rate charts.

http://www.infernosonly.com/Kyosho_B...if348-1116.htm
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Yes Grey are stiffer than Blue by 1/2 a coil and they are working well for us on a medium grip track.
Found themhere and yep, they are 6.5/1.4 springs so slightly stiffer than the blues. Weird that they aren't on any chart or even in the MP9 spring section.
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