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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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My car came with narrow hubs for the back and normal for the front. I see that on most setup sheets call for normal all the way around.

Should I get some normal hubs for the back or are the not needed because I have the offset hubs? Will I pass tech with normal hubs in the rear and long tread?

Any special tips as far as maintaining the metal sheilded bearings? I normall wash with simple green and water but Im worried that water will mess up these bearings.
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Originally Posted by infanterene
Any special tips as far as maintaining the metal sheilded bearings? I normall wash with simple green and water but Im worried that water will mess up these bearings.
I reckon it all depends on how often the bearings are cleaned & /or lubed coz I strip the original manufacturer's oil or grease out of every bearing all over the car & soak them in turpentine for a few days (agitating a couple of times/day) to make sure all of the original lube is gone. Next I clean them of all the solvent by spraying brake cleaner or motor spray into the bearings using an RPM Bearing Blaster or just onto a rag if I'm being a bit lazy. Then I use ZX1 & perform a full heat-treatment on the bearings (heating up to around 100oC) & after that's been done the bearings are essentially rust-proof & lubricated for life. I always have a light coating of ZX1 oil on the bearings, never allowing them to run completely dry. Because of the heat-treatment & the way it creates a bonded layer on the bearing surfaces, there is absolutely no need for all of the grease that the bearings are packed with from the factory. And the difference is really obvious when spinning a diff or clutch bell by hand - with the original grease they spin & stop really quickly but after being heat-treated everything just keeps on spinning for ages.

They last ages too, I only replace mine when they start getting gritty & rough even after soaking in solvent. I usually have a tough time trying to pry off the metal shields so if the bearings are rough after soaking in solvent, that's when I replace them.
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Hi Guys I received both of my TKI2 WC kits and started to assembled my nitro one first and found that the front shock stay does not have three of the holes 2 -4mm and 1-3mm hole on the front shock stay are not counter sunk. I check my second kit for my E car and the shock stay is the same way, am I missing something the manual says to use flat head screws??? Did anyone else notice this?

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Originally Posted by WINTER350
Hi Guys I received both of my TKI2 WC kits and started to assembled my nitro one first and found that the front shock stay does not have three of the holes 2 -4mm and 1-3mm hole on the front shock stay are not counter sunk. I check my second kit for my E car and the shock stay is the same way, am I missing something the manual says to use flat head screws??? Did anyone else notice this?

Thanks
Probably supposed to be that way. Just put some button head 4mm screws in there. The countersink may have been identified as a weak spot in the tower.
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Originally Posted by WINTER350
Hi Guys I received both of my TKI2 WC kits and started to assembled my nitro one first and found that the front shock stay does not have three of the holes 2 -4mm and 1-3mm hole on the front shock stay are not counter sunk. I check my second kit for my E car and the shock stay is the same way, am I missing something the manual says to use flat head screws??? Did anyone else notice this?

Thanks
There's an extra sheet of instruction that tells you to use 4mm button head screw's.
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Oh, and when you mount the front bumper, its not going to fit flush because the bottom front plate is thicker. You will have to enlarge the holes towars the rear a little.
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Quick question for you guys with the WC kits - what is the part number for the new WC version of the front hinge-pin holder (IF439B)? Thanks
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Oh, and when you mount the front bumper, its not going to fit flush because the bottom front plate is thicker. You will have to enlarge the holes towars the rear a little.
Cools thanks. I did look for an additional sheet but must of over looked it.

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Cools thanks. I did look for an additional sheet but must of over looked it.

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If you have any question's please ask. There some step's that will have you scratching your head. Like step 4 mine didnt have the 2 4x10 screws in the bag.
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Originally Posted by afr0sch
Probably supposed to be that way. Just put some button head 4mm screws in there. The countersink may have been identified as a weak spot in the tower.
You gonna be at Indy for RC Pro this weekend?
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I know very little about nitro but I'm thinking of picking up an MP9 TKI2 WC for the summer season. Any tips on where to go to learn the basics of what I'll need to get started? There seems to be a lot more complexity than electric.

I'd like to just run everything that King/Tebo run. Any pointers would be appreciated.
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You gonna be at Indy for RC Pro this weekend?
Of course! Open Nitro and E-buggy.
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Originally Posted by aaron125
I reckon it all depends on how often the bearings are cleaned & /or lubed coz I strip the original manufacturer's oil or grease out of every bearing all over the car & soak them in turpentine for a few days (agitating a couple of times/day) to make sure all of the original lube is gone. Next I clean them of all the solvent by spraying brake cleaner or motor spray into the bearings using an RPM Bearing Blaster or just onto a rag if I'm being a bit lazy. Then I use ZX1 & perform a full heat-treatment on the bearings (heating up to around 100oC) & after that's been done the bearings are essentially rust-proof & lubricated for life. I always have a light coating of ZX1 oil on the bearings, never allowing them to run completely dry. Because of the heat-treatment & the way it creates a bonded layer on the bearing surfaces, there is absolutely no need for all of the grease that the bearings are packed with from the factory. And the difference is really obvious when spinning a diff or clutch bell by hand - with the original grease they spin & stop really quickly but after being heat-treated everything just keeps on spinning for ages.

They last ages too, I only replace mine when they start getting gritty & rough even after soaking in solvent. I usually have a tough time trying to pry off the metal shields so if the bearings are rough after soaking in solvent, that's when I replace them.
Great tips. Thanks. What is ZX1 oil and where do you get it?
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you guys all seemk pretty willing to help each other out with your wc cars but i ask for a couple tips on the se and get completely ignored? way to help people into the nitro side of of the hobby. spoiled bitches
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