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Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

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Old 05-15-2008, 02:05 PM
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That's a very bold statement to indicate the legendary inferno that almost all buggies are cloned after is trying to clone an 8scale buggy newcomer.

A similar statement would be Mercedes-benz is trying to clone Pontiacs..why?
No... it would be more like Mercedes-Benz is trying to clone Porsche.
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For the sake of the people who have to pay for the car, it looks like Kyosho will do what the people had been asking for for a while now. Include big bores and billet knuckles in the kit. Those were VERY expensive upgrades for a 777WC.

Maybe the woodscrew joke will finally be put to rest now, too.

I'm very interested in what's under the heli canopy. Maybe it's a longitudinal engine mount with belt drive now!
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I have to ask the question...."why would it matter if it did have some Losi designs in it and if Kyosho did get a thing or two from Losi?" I mean, it is universally accepted that the Losi accelerates harder and quicker, and jumps better then any other stock buggy to date....yes it can be a handful and kind of twitchy, and yes, the quality is lacking, but if Kyosho (or anyone else...like the 808 for example), can take the strong points of the Losi car (mentioned above) and combine them with superior fit, finish, and durability, and make the car be forgiving to drive at the same time...I would think that would be the best of all the worlds
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On the contrary Kyosho drive trains are snappier, accelerate quicker and extremely stable under hard stress. A combination of quality and design is what sets it apart. Let's not forget their world renowned shocks. They now carry Big Bores which are an improvement over the already amazing older ones.
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No... it would be more like Mercedes-Benz is trying to clone Porsche.
Or Porsche trying to clone an F-16
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Im going to guess and say it will have a narrower chassis layout ,engine moved more forward and to the center line ,different gearing (smaller spur and larger ring gear) for lower CG .Possible carbon servo tray all the goodies that will make it lighter. Less screws and nuts through out the chassis for easy tear down. This is just what I hope it has
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That's a very bold statement to indicate the legendary inferno that almost all buggies are cloned after is trying to clone an 8scale buggy newcomer.

A similar statement would be Mercedes-benz is trying to clone Pontiacs..why?
Why? Because the Losi has been eating Kyosho's lunch on the race track and more importantly, at the cash register. Those are very good reasons to change.
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They must of eaten from the wrong lunch box. If they can outrun an inferno
they would have at the very least won 1 of 7 World championships
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Originally Posted by Key View Post
On the contrary Kyosho drive trains are snappier, accelerate quicker and extremely stable under hard stress. A combination of quality and design is what sets it apart. Let's not forget their world renowned shocks. They now carry Big Bores which are an improvement over the already amazing older ones.

I agree that the Kyosho drivetrains are smooth as butter and stable, but to say a a WC777 buggy outfitted the exact same as the 8ight buggy (servos, radio, batts, motor, and pipe) would out accelerate and outjump the 8ight is simply.....well, I am not sure what it is, but from what I have seen, and raced, and driven, that does not happen (although I am faster on the track with a K or M buggy then I am with the 8ight)

Yep, the BB shocks are the cats meow...that is why I ran them on my xray truggy and I now run the STRR with the big boingers. All I am saying is it is not a bad thing that xray and kyosho (we will see about the new Mugen) may or may not have "borrowed" a few ideas from the 8ight..the 8ight was quite a bit different then the past buggies, but it did/does do a lot of things good (I just was not consistant with it which is why I sold mine). The quality and wear rate of the kyosho's are certainly higher then the 8ight...I am looking forward to this new buggy..hopefully it will give me a good reason to get back into the buggies!
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They must of eaten from the wrong lunch box. If they can outrun an inferno
they would have at the very least won 1 of 7 World championships

the 8ight was not around for many of those WC's, and I assume the driver had a lot to do with it as well
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Yes, the driver has more to do with it, however if you win 6 consecutive world titles it shows that the inferno is a proven design.

BTW - The eight was around in the last worlds
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BTW - The eight was around in the last worlds
The 777 won the most recent worlds and it had ZERO impact on sales. Everyone continued to buy the Losi. Losi has been eating from the luchbox with the cash in it. Kyosho will be smart to take some cues from the Losi. Everyone likes te quality of the Kyosho cars (I've said before, they set the standard) but the Inferno platform is done.
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I agree that the Kyosho drivetrains are smooth as butter and stable, but to say a a WC777 buggy outfitted the exact same as the 8ight buggy (servos, radio, batts, motor, and pipe) would out accelerate and outjump the 8ight is simply.....well, I am not sure what it is, but from what I have seen, and raced, and driven, that does not happen (although I am faster on the track with a K or M buggy then I am with the 8ight)

Yep, the BB shocks are the cats meow...that is why I ran them on my xray truggy and I now run the STRR with the big boingers. All I am saying is it is not a bad thing that xray and kyosho (we will see about the new Mugen) may or may not have "borrowed" a few ideas from the 8ight..the 8ight was quite a bit different then the past buggies, but it did/does do a lot of things good (I just was not consistant with it which is why I sold mine). The quality and wear rate of the kyosho's are certainly higher then the 8ight...I am looking forward to this new buggy..hopefully it will give me a good reason to get back into the buggies!
There are a lot of factors involved when mentioning that buggy A can out-accelerate buggy B. I've seen rough sections on tracks that can unsettle an eight but are no problem with the MP777s and that's without using kyosho's big bores. So one can imagine which buggy would have the upper hand in a race.

Kyosho has no intentions of borrowing any ideas off of the eight. It's more likely to see the next version of losi take some of the idea's from the MP9. Definately not a taboo at all.
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The 777 won the most recent worlds and it had ZERO impact on sales. Everyone continued to buy the Losi. Losi has been eating from the luchbox with the cash in it. Kyosho will be smart to take some cues from the Losi. Everyone likes te quality of the Kyosho cars (I've said before, they set the standard) but the Inferno platform is done.
On an international scale there are far more MP777s sold out there than Losi's. Not quite sure where you got the zeros from. They are raking Dinars from the Worlds. G. Losi's on Kyosho's payroll. As for platforms there are approx 5 of them and the 6th is soon to be unveiled.

Can't wait till they pull the curtain down and show the MP9 at the Masters!
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"I've seen rough sections on tracks that can unsettle an eight but are no problem with the MP777s and that's without using kyosho's big bores. So one can imagine which buggy would have the upper hand in a race."

I guess that explains why Drake and Truhe have been all but steamrolling everyone with their "unstable" 8ights.

Sarcasm aside, from a factual standpoint, how many races have been won by Kyosho versus Losi since the release of the 8ight?
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