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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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Originally Posted by 02maxima18
Problem with older TKI's are the not updated hard plastics, updated bushings, front toe plate. I heard they came out with an updated TKI but unsure if it was a rumor or something on released in Japan etc. If it is the older style more likely you gonna spend like $50 in new plastics which isn't bad, and yes you get the hard anodizing. The TKI drives different than the SE I'm personally about 1-2 seconds faster a lap with the SE than the tki.

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Do you think that the SE is that much faster due the the M rear shocks and tower, I haven't changed my TKI at this stage, but may consider this soon, especially if it will make the buggy faster

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The TKI 2 has the chassis and towers that are not hard anodised although the rear is Med also the brake disc's are not slotted but none of these things should be a problem as far as performance goes IMO. The shocks are not velvet coated and the turnbuckles are black steel but I also don't think this is a problem. All these things have been produced to keep the cost of manufacture down hence the price so whats the problem???
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All these things have been produced to keep the cost of manufacture down hence the price so whats the problem???
The problem is that Kyosho are asking for more than the price of the TKI for what is essentially an SE kit with lightened outdrives + aluminum rear uprights & rear hinge pin brace. I don't really consider the new shocks to be an "upgrade," since they aren't PTFE coated and threaded collars do not remain nearly as consistent as clips.

Truth be told, the staggering discrepancy between the Japanese Yen and US Dollar is likely the biggest culprit for the price jump. If the two were at par, you'd be looking at a $100+ dollar savings but alas, the exchange rate is what it is, and complaining won't make it change. Just sucks for those of us who have K cars.
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To be honest I bought the rear SE tower and shocks put 30wt Losi in them like I do with my TKI rears and put them on my TKI and ran it, and I didn't like it that much at first, so I put the TKI rear tower and shocks back on.

Now running my SE I have a good set up on it, diff oils and run 35wt w/tapered pistons, I don't know which size they are since I haven't taken the shock completely apart, but I'm going to put 1.3x8hole pistons in the rear, and keep the 1.2x8 hole pistons. I don't like the tapered because they don't spring back up very quickly, they compress quickly, so I had to stiffen the rear with a spacer, and now the rear is a little stiff for my liking. The 1.3x8 should hopefully give me a little more recoil and I can drop my oil to 30wt.

To me the SE seems to have more control in the rear of the car, and the car is a lot smoother around corners, and at higher speeds around corners, you could fix some of that with the TKI by giving the car a little more - camber and loading the sway bar a little to keep the rear end stable, but the - camber could cause to much bite and cause body roll and flip. This is all IMO, thats what I tried on mine and the rear end became more stable, and also took out some droop.

I took ALL my upgrades off my TKI and put them on my SE, and now my TKI is my back up all ready to go in emergencies, and I trust the buggy still. I raced my SE last weekend for the first time and Qualified 3rd missed TQ by .2 of a second, missed second by .1 of a second. Felt very comfortable my first race with the SE, the TKI2 I bet will be SICK on the track.

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Originally Posted by captain america
The problem is that Kyosho are asking for more than the price of the TKI for what is essentially an SE kit with lightened outdrives + aluminum rear uprights & rear hinge pin brace. I don't really consider the new shocks to be an "upgrade," since they aren't PTFE coated and threaded collars do not remain nearly as consistent as clips.

Truth be told, the staggering discrepancy between the Japanese Yen and US Dollar is likely the biggest culprit for the price jump. If the two were at par, you'd be looking at a $100+ dollar savings but alas, the exchange rate is what it is, and complaining won't make it change. Just sucks for those of us who have K cars.
I do not think the exchange rate was a factor, the other kits have not appeared to have been affected. JMO It does stink though, I think there would be a few more K cars out there and parts might be easier to obtain for the rest of us if the pricing were more reasonable. I have no doubt though that the car is the quality you would expect from Kyosho. I just wish Kyosho would follow through with what they stated, that is really my only problem with the price....

I was looking at upgrading my TKI BUT not sure that I will upgrade at this point. Still very happy with my TKI Nitro and SE with E conversion kit.
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Mugen kits went up a little bit not $200-300, but like $50-70. Kyosho parts really aren't expensive same cost as losi, less than serpent, same a mugen, of course more than hot bodies and associated, but just hold an arm of HB and Kyosho and you will see why it's more.

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Does anyone know the part number for the diff gasket for the Front/Rear Diffs? IF403 is the part number in the manual but you have to buy the diff cup with it....is that the only way you can buy the gasket as the center gasket is sold by itself?

If someone knows the actual part number please shoot me a pm as I am in the middle of a rebuild!

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it should be IF030.01 according to my LHS...

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I did Martin, thank you! It seems like the only place I can find it is Infernosonly.com, Amain does not carry that part number
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yeah, it's really strange, because it seems like it's a spare part for another car or something... because it's not listed as an MP9 spare, but it sure is the one, i have bought them and they are the same.
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yeah, it's really strange, because it seems like it's a spare part for another car or something... because it's not listed as an MP9 spare, but it sure is the one, i have bought them and they are the same.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Case-Gasket-5
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What is the exact diameter of the pins on the MP9 32mm flywheel? My calipers are not accurate enough to do the job and I tried searching the thread but search came up blank which seemed a bit weird?

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What is the exact diameter of the pins on the MP9 32mm flywheel? My calipers are not accurate enough to do the job and I tried searching the thread but search came up blank which seemed a bit weird?

Cheers, Mike.
I thought 1.6 mm, others use 1.5 mm
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Originally Posted by Matthijs
I thought 1.6 mm, others use 1.5 mm
I think "normal" flywheel pins are closer to 2.6mm?
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I think "normal" flywheel pins are closer to 2.6mm?
you'r absolutely right...well...almost....the kyosho is 2.6 mm, just measured them
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