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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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Originally Posted by slayyer
what reciever battery fits in the mp9? looks like a stick would fit because it doesnt look big enough for a hump. thanks!
Hump packs will work also the big 5 cell AA packs like mugen, ballistic and stick-man packs will also fit
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what reciever battery fits in the mp9? looks like a stick would fit because it doesnt look big enough for a hump. thanks!
stick doesn't fit, a humppack does, with ease. You can put it in on its side or the normal way, space enough!
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Originally Posted by Jammin57
Hump packs will work also the big 5 cell AA packs like mugen, ballistic and stick-man packs will also fit
thanks! didnt seem tall enough to hold one but thats good because i have a hump lipo i was never able to use!
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just a little fun with my mugen friends at our last race:

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Hi guys,

I am now trying to make my car even better at handling. I went to slough track in UK and i noticed that the guys that were in the A and B final their cars had the same cornering characteristics.

I dont know how to explain this but i was looking how all were taking the turns and i notice that the cars was actually moving like a train around the corner. The rear end was turning very quickly allowing the car to take the corner very fast without any slide or spin.

I am trying to make my mp9 to take corners easily like theirs and not have to have to struggle.

Also i check some videos of ryan cavalleri, tebo Cody king and their cars have all the same cornering , smooth and fast.

my setup until now is similar to tebo except of the diff oils.

I use 7 for front 5 for center and 3.5 for rear.

i also use 40 for front and 30 for rear for the shocks.

I basically dont know what to do to have better and more forgiving cornering.

Anyone from u guys have any idea?

Lastly how do i make the car more stable? on the bumpy sections is very unstable.and if i turn the wheels a lot of time it flips over.
My right height is about 29mm.
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Hi guys,

I am now trying to make my car even better at handling. I went to slough track in UK and i noticed that the guys that were in the A and B final their cars had the same cornering characteristics.

I dont know how to explain this but i was looking how all were taking the turns and i notice that the cars was actually moving like a train around the corner. The rear end was turning very quickly allowing the car to take the corner very fast without any slide or spin.

I am trying to make my mp9 to take corners easily like theirs and not have to have to struggle.

Also i check some videos of ryan cavalleri, tebo Cody king and their cars have all the same cornering , smooth and fast.

my setup until now is similar to tebo except of the diff oils.

I use 7 for front 5 for center and 3.5 for rear.

i also use 40 for front and 30 for rear for the shocks.

I basically dont know what to do to have better and more forgiving cornering.

Anyone from u guys have any idea?

Lastly how do i make the car more stable? on the bumpy sections is very unstable.and if i turn the wheels a lot of time it flips over.
My right height is about 29mm.
Theres a few things you can do. for a base ride height, i suggest you run about 27mm front ride height, and 28mm rear ride height.

for the steering issue, you can try a few different things. You can try changing your roll centers of the front upper arms front and rear. If your running the front upper arms in the low (L) position, you can try the high position (H) bushings. this will give your car more rotation entering the turn.

and on the rear of the car, you can move the rear upper arm up one hole on the shock tower. this will free up the car when coming into the turn, and give you more forward bite when coming out of the turn.

those are 2 things you can try. try one at a time. if you like your front end settings, and are comfterable with them, just try moving the link up one hole on the rear upper arm.

changing the front end setting to high is a more dramatic change.

theres alot of things to do, but if your car is close to being good, which it should be with tebo's setup, you only need some small adjustments. His NEO-Buggy setup is a really good base to try these changes from. (but you may want to run the 1.3x8 rear pistons and 32.5 wt oil, and 1mm shorter wheelbase for outdoor). I'm pretty sure thats close to what he currently runs on the car.
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Hi mike,
am not sure which tebo setup i have but i remember when i was doing the setups i checked all tebos setups and all of them had many things in common.

When i first assempled the mp9 iit was difficult to drive in the tracks i went.

I then changed the setup like this..

front stabilizer 2.5 and rear 2.3
front pistons 1.2x8 (stock)
rear 1.3x8
the rear upper arm i put it to the number 8 hole same with tebo
and the 5 5 2 at the begining which i didnt like.

i might have done more but i dont remember right now..

as for what you said i thank you for your help..
do you think changing the rear by one whole can make a big difference?

also do you think if i change the position to the rear upper arm will not make my car spin when acc more easily?

The problem is that i dont have the time to go to the track and make new setups and i dont want to change setups when i race..

so i am trying to learn from your experience guys but i know that is not 100% correct.
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for some that might like the Kyosho cars..
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finally, a cnc alu rear hub! IFW410
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Where did you find that pic????

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Ben--What the heck-why are you selling it?
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Originally Posted by Matthijs
finally, a cnc alu rear hub! IFW410
Looks like they've increased the number of mounting holes for added tuning.
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Where did you find that pic????

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Kyosho Japan site, that's the first site with new kyosho products and pictures. If you choose the englisch version you will get 'older' news, choose the japanese site.
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Didrace - sell it and get a Mooogen!!

Looking at your setup you say you are running a 2.5 rollbar on the front and 2.3 on the rear (standard kit I believe is 2.5f and 2.8r). I used to run 2.3f and 2.6r on mine - try that if you've got them. If not, go back to stock rear.

Mine was generally pretty much stock except I changed the rear pistons to the 1.3x8.

Shock oil try 35f, 30r - I don't usually go more than 5wt difference front to back. May possibly want to go back to smaller holes and drop the oils further depending on how cold it is.

Diffs - I was running 4-6-2 at the end and liked it. Try that if you've got them or go back to stock (4-4-2).

Are all bushings, ackerman postions, shock positions stock?

If you listen to/try any of this and beat me Sunday I'll come and give you a slapping!
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