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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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Old 06-23-2009, 03:39 PM
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Paul B I heard from a reliable source that Kyosho will be stopping the TKI version.... and promoting the STD kit you can always upgrade anytime you need to.

Think of it as a limited run that Kyosho did, and it's in their record to always do that it serves their interest.

The other competitors always used the other way of doing things and so did Kyosho in the past, funnily enough this time round I guess they were in a hurry to get something top notch out for the worlds in anticipation of winning the world title again and it back fired.

It's a pitty they rushed that, had they given the team drivers enough time to work on the cars and get used to it the world title would not have been that hard to take, and results as of today speak for themselves.

Whatever it is, it's better they dropped to the STD kit most can afford it and it's more logically to spend on key options from the STD as opposed from the TKI version.

I say it's a wise move from them....
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Originally Posted by Grimm0ne
works for me cuz im poor hahah...

but kicking around ether picking up a MP9 or MBX6, as the last thing i drove on the track was a KE3 so its been awhile. Any pointers from my fellow Kyo drivers or should i just go Mugen ahha. (don't flame me, im on a budget and the wife will kill me when she finds out)
Both cars are very good, you just need one to fit your budget, either one will require some upgrades once you start racing heavily, the MBx6 is a very light car.

Abuse wise Iwould say the mp9 can handle more then the mbx6 stock to stock.

Just pick your weapon and learn the tracks you will do well, it's not the brand that takes you it's the experience and time you have on the track.
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Originally Posted by shesha
Both cars are very good, you just need one to fit your budget, either one will require some upgrades once you start racing heavily, the MBx6 is a very light car.

Abuse wise Iwould say the mp9 can handle more then the mbx6 stock to stock.

Just pick your weapon and learn the tracks you will do well, it's not the brand that takes you it's the experience and time you have on the track.
at my old track i held my own with the Ke2 so i'll probably shoot for the MP9, wife already knows so i got the green light, just need to get my other project done before i start. There are a few local tracks that im going to atend too, going to feel like a noob but i'm sure i'll pick it back up quick. Thanks for the insite.
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Originally Posted by Paul B
What information are you refering to? Are you jsut being sarcastic or serious?

I'd cry if they got rid of the TKI version
yup..


Team manager from kyosho said their all sold out and promoting the standard buggy.. i will admit i have lost a few hours of sleep over it... best way to go will just be to update it and use tki parts)

anyone find any tricks to making the car less responsive? that work
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Originally Posted by shesha
nice.... but that vspec will go nice with an os 2050 pipe or 2060... the pipe you have is sirio based and likes to run nice on the cl7b or evo4...
Funny u mention that, ran it today and it doesnt like the pipe at all, very high running temps and no top end. Picking up the os pipe this weekend. Only put the extech on their cause i had it laying around the shop..

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Originally Posted by tenpins77
yup..


Team manager from kyosho said their all sold out and promoting the standard buggy.. i will admit i have lost a few hours of sleep over it... best way to go will just be to update it and use tki parts)

anyone find any tricks to making the car less responsive? that work
Lengthening camber links, shortening the wheelbase, etc.
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Originally Posted by tenpins77
anyone find any tricks to making the car less responsive? that work
I found that raising the inner mounting points of the rear top arms (to the top hole in the shock tower) settled the car down, up until then it would have far too much steering and was a handful to drive - now it is a dream

Hope this helps............Dave
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Originally Posted by tenpins77
yup..


Team manager from kyosho said their all sold out and promoting the standard buggy.. i will admit i have lost a few hours of sleep over it... best way to go will just be to update it and use tki parts)

anyone find any tricks to making the car less responsive? that work
I M O , I had the same issue the car was toooooo responsive!

What I ended up with I love

7 in the front diff. takes the twitch out of the steering on turn in and gives you badass on power steering!!!!!

6 in the center keeps the front wheels from balloning off the corner. while still not to vilent.

5 in the rear allows just the right amount of rotation on corner entry, and also as soon as you get back in the throtle using 5 just plants the rear of the car.


With these fluids i start with the front caster at 0 and the upper arm shims split eavenly. front camberlink in the outside hole. As the track gets slicker you can start moving the shims on the upper front arms 1 mm at a time to the back. It is like picking just the amount of steering you want.

Also in the rear, I run the camber link in the #8 hole and on yhe inner hole of the hub. WHEELBASE !!! Key factor!! start with 1 mm from as short as it can go. If it rotates to much start moving it back 1 mm at a time .


with this set up on diffs, the car is a plesure to drive.

Hope this helps?
Thanks
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None of this makes any sense to me. In the future, say next season when I start out with a fresh car, I will have to buy the standard kit for a whopping $100 less then buy a new:

chassis
shock towers
shocks
springs
hard alu balls
wheel nuts
front knuckles
turnbuckles
brake rotors
and diff axles
(anything else I missed?)

I'd never use the "standard" version of anything (unless of course there was no other option), so I'd be wasting tons of money. I mean, the chassis alone is $115, which already covers the cost difference, never mind the 10 other things... all of which cost over $20.

Also, if they are still going to make all of these higher component parts, whats holding them back from throwing them all into 1 box? They wouldn't be 'losing' any money. Only thing they'd have to worry about is making too many of them.

For me, money isn't an issue, but wasting money is clearly something I don't want to do. The TKI fits my motto perfectly. If its really going out of production, I'm just going to have to purchase 3 more for the next 2-3 seasons before they come out with a substantially new car.

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nobody said the TKI kit is out of production, it is still available in most of the bigger (online) shops in the USA. From the gossip it seams that only Kyosho USA stopped importing the TKI kit for the USA market. That doesn't mean Kyosho Japan stopped producing and selling them to the international market. Who knows...maybe when the Standard Edition is sold out in the USA the marketing goes back to the TKI kit?

All gossip and speculation so far for the USA market, nothing official..but hey...where is Mr. P. King? Still in France? ;-)
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Install these parts to transform your Inferno MP-9 into the Team Kyosho International version!
No.IF448 Hard Main Chassis High Density Anodized
No.IF436 Hard Front Shock Stay High Density Anodized
No.IF437 Hard Rear Shock Stay High Density Anodized
No.IFW336GM Nylon-lined Wheel Nuts Nylon-lined for slip prevention
No.IF415 Brake Rotor With slit
No.IFW123 SP Hard Upper Rod (Front) Gold plated specification
No.IF332 Tie Rod Gold plated specification
No.97008-36H Hard Adjust Rod Gold plated specification
No.IFW124 SP Hard Upper Rod (Rear) Gold plated specification
No.IF437 Hard Rear Shock Stay (L Size) High Density Anodized (L Size)
No.IF346 Big Shock Set L L size
No.IF412 Differential Shaft Lightweight type
No.IF413 Center Differential Shaft Lightweight type
No.IF349-01V Velvet Big Shock Case S Velvet coated
No.IF346-01V Velvet Big Shock Case L Velvet coated
No.IF348-1216 Big Shock Spring L Colored Spring
No.IF350-916 Big Shock Spring S Colored Spring
No.IF461H 6.8mm Flanged Hard Ball High density anodized aluminum
No.IF462H 5.8mm Flanged Hard Ball High density anodized aluminum
No.W0202H 6.8mm Hard Ball High density anodized aluminum
No.IF464H 6.8mm Flanged Hard Ball High density anodized aluminum
No.W0201H 5.8mm Hard Ball High density anodized aluminum
No.92653H 5.8mm Hard Ball joint High density anodized aluminum
No.IF463H 7.8mm Flanged Hard Ball High density anodized aluminum
No.IF465H 7.8mm Hard Taper Balls High density anodized aluminum
No.IFH003 Wheels  
No.AKA14001 AKA Tire & Inner Foam  

I got this from the main Kyosho website. I have been scavenging around to get these parts which not everyone carries. I am just like Paul B and would have rather got the TKI kit. But now i have to make due with upgrading my standard kit. Out of all these parts, are there any must haves?
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you would not notice any difference if you ran both cars back to back,your car will still perform the same way just a tad bit heavier ,you can pickup the tierods on ebay 4 20 dollars or so. I would recommend getting the colored springs and maybe the brake disks. I ran the non team version and it felt really good ,just not as flashy.
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Originally Posted by ON A MISSION
you would not notice any difference if you ran both cars back to back,your car will still perform the same way just a tad bit heavier ,you can pickup the tierods on ebay 4 20 dollars or so. I would recommend getting the colored springs and maybe the brake disks. I ran the non team version and it felt really good ,just not as flashy.
Even in the ruff they drive the same?

As hard as im trying to stay out of RC for awhile, this is not working
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