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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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Old 10-16-2013, 03:40 AM
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im thinking bout better droop screw system so it wouldnt eat the chassis, (yea I know bout mugen droop screw for fixing it). and better design of the outdrives, Its like a vampire teeth when its worn and chipped the dogbones for unlucky situation.
rest of it TKI3 simply the best !
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agreed.... we shouldn't have to resort to using droop screws from other models.
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Originally Posted by banana rt
im thinking bout better droop screw system so it wouldnt eat the chassis, (yea I know bout mugen droop screw for fixing it). and better design of the outdrives, Its like a vampire teeth when its worn and chipped the dogbones for unlucky situation.
rest of it TKI3 simply the best !
use the rear hub spacer in your shock to set your droop and remove your droop screws

http://youtu.be/lUs-K-QpyqA

This is mike craddock who wrenched and did the setup for elliot boots who TQ'ed the worlds
he said to use spacers in your shocks
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Originally Posted by hipster
use the rear hub spacer in your shock to set your droop and remove your droop screws

http://youtu.be/lUs-K-QpyqA

This is mike craddock who wrenched and did the setup for elliot boots who TQ'ed the worlds
he said to use spacers in your shocks
I've used this method in the video as well, but left the droop screws in as a secondary "backup".
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Originally Posted by hipster
use the rear hub spacer in your shock to set your droop and remove your droop screws

http://youtu.be/lUs-K-QpyqA

This is mike craddock who wrenched and did the setup for elliot boots who TQ'ed the worlds
he said to use spacers in your shocks
Elliot Boots also runs a plastic steering servo arm... nuff said.

Originally Posted by mkorn
Limiting the shock travel with the droop screws absolutely does reduce the chances of ripping a shock end off. There should be no debate here. With internal limiters all the pressure is on the shock end and piston over every jump and crash.

If you somehow still don't believe droop screws are better than internal limiters then use internal limiters on one side and droop screws on the other. You will quickly realize what works better.

Also keep in mind all 1/8th vehicles include droop screws. If 40 engineers agree on something there's a pretty darn good reason for it.

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geez, not this debate again...lol
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geez, not this debate again...lol
LMFAO

kyosho rocks , bottom line

good luck finding any rc vehicle that is more ready to rock out of the box

and good luck finding one that needs no "special attention" in any areas of your build

oh and did I mention the cars handle phenomenally ?
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I have never wanted to race as much as I do since getting this car.. Love the car and everything about. Will be hard to ever think about switching to something else.
Kyosho rocks!!
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Originally Posted by HH
Elliot Boots also ran a plastic steering servo arm... how'd that work out?




I agree with Marty.
OMG this was covered quite well after the worlds, it was a servo failure and had NOTHING to do with the stock plastic arm, in fact he continued to use the stock item after the worlds.

The internal limiters as far as I know was a tip passed on to Mike to try with Elliott's car and any others for that matter from J. Tebo so take the issue up with him, everyone uses that system at my club
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Originally Posted by slow coach
OMG this was covered quite well after the worlds, it was a servo failure and had NOTHING to do with the stock plastic arm, in fact he continued to use the stock item after the worlds.

The internal limiters as far as I know was a tip passed on to Mike to try with Elliott's car and any others for that matter from J. Tebo so take the issue up with him, everyone uses that system at my club
I think inserting the limiters in the shocks is a great idea, and an absolutely fool-proof way of obtaining as close to 100% equal droop left to right as possible.

The only thing I would do which I've done on my kit, is to adjust the droop screws so that they contact the chassis at full droop to compliment the spacers. That way there is some pressure on both areas.
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So if you are using the hub spacers as Droop limiters, how many do you use to get a 99/118 droop setting?

Are you still having to utilize the droop screws to fine tune?
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So if you are using the hub spacers as Droop limiters, how many do you use to get a 99/118 droop setting?

Are you still having to utilize the droop screws to fine tune?
2mm spacer in the front and 1 mm spacer in the rear, you unscrew the shock bottoms to get 99/118 droop/shock length
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Originally Posted by slow coach
OMG this was covered quite well after the worlds, it was a servo failure and had NOTHING to do with the stock plastic arm, in fact he continued to use the stock item after the worlds.
You are correct sir.. statement has been revised.

but... "OMG"..?? really?



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The internal limiters as far as I know was a tip passed on to Mike to try with Elliott's car and any others for that matter from J. Tebo so take the issue up with him, everyone uses that system at my club
No issue to take up... simply a different opinion.
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So if you are using the hub spacers as Droop limiters, how many do you use to get a 99/118 droop setting?

Are you still having to utilize the droop screws to fine tune?
By default with the way I built the shocks I get a nice 99/118 mm droop setting using the 2mm in front and 1mm in rear. Just screw on your shock bottoms to just cover the end of the threads and that's right where you want to be.

Straight forward and 100% repeatable. I also measured with a digital calliper to ensure the shock bottoms were screwed in 100% equal as possible left to right and that the total height of the shocks after built were within 0.01mm-0.02mm of each other depending on how I held the calliper :P
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