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Old 02-03-2011, 01:10 PM
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You are correct, the 46T spur would require the original center mounts, #354010, which are 1mm higher. We have been using a 13T XT8 bell for testing. It is an option to try, and one that we have been testing with success in some conditions.

If you have been happy with the current setup, I wouldn't change either Just like I have said for our other platforms, just because an updated kit is released does not mean your existing car all the sudden goes a second slower. If you were happy and competitive yesterday, you should be happy and competitve today. The new kit addresses alot of the requests from the public with simple and effective solutions. If you haven't had those concerns, keep on rocking the 2010 If a buddy gets one, I would at least ask for a test run to see what you think. You might be surprised!

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Old 02-03-2011, 01:18 PM
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So will the 2010 upgrade kit go on sale now? I'm still running the 09 spec, may be a good time to finally upgrade it. I don't really want to buy a new kit.
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Old 02-03-2011, 01:44 PM
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New and improved handling.....am I missing something on the 2011 spec over the 2010 spec buggy to give it better handling?
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Originally Posted by jonw
Was told the new gearing would require a different size ring gear. Definately going to order one for our current buggy. Thanks for the help.

We run the active diff in the truggy and Cade really likes it.
No, the 41T will drop right in whether you are running the 808 or XT8 -10 tooth pinions. Will also be useable for the 2011 from what Xray is saying.

I have yet to try the overdrive active diff, although I would presume it would be awesome on a smooth tight technical track.
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Originally Posted by CAR
New and improved handling.....am I missing something on the 2011 spec over the 2010 spec buggy to give it better handling?
Yes there are:
1. Roll centers (which you mentioned), instead of a one way adjustment for toe, anti squat, and kick-up, there are now 8 adjustments on one insert. You can now make roll center adjustments up or down, widen the car, narrow the car and make the same roll center adjustment with wider or narrow stance.

2. The chassis is stiffer length wise, which will help with flex, but the side to side flex is still the same for better traction.

3. The motor has been moved 2mm closer to center.

4. The new caster blocks, and rear up rights are adjusted from above so you can add or remove shims for more roll center adjusting.

5. The new caster block and knuckles really give the car more steering.

The decision was made to keep the original stock (long) arms in the rear because with the widened hinge pin holders with short arms hurt the car when on rough tracks which is more than 50% of the tracks we race on.

With these added features plus the correction with the drive train now the 808 will be a tank on wheels but also give you more adjustments to really dial in the car to how you want it.


Hope this helps!
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:08 PM
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Can you change the width of the car front and rear? Also in the pictures it looks to me that its still the old way for adjusting roll centers on the hubs? Thanks for your help
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You should be able to make the width adjustments on both front and rear.

The new aluminum hubs and steering blocks will offer the extra adjustments that Jason mentioned. Those bits will remain as optional pieces, and can be used on any version of the 808.

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Originally Posted by CAR
Can you change the width of the car front and rear? Also in the pictures it looks to me that its still the old way for adjusting roll centers on the hubs? Thanks for your help
still picturs of old cars
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Originally Posted by CAR
New and improved handling.....am I missing something on the 2011 spec over the 2010 spec buggy to give it better handling?
The hinge pin holders provide different geometry, which substantially changes the way the car handles. And for some reason, the center drive shafts make the car handle differently as well.
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Anyone know what part Number the new caster blocks are-Or when there likely to hi the UK. I know the rear hubs are at RCDisco.. anyone?
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:26 PM
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What is the difference in the radio box and radio tray over the 10 spec? Sorry for asking so many questions last Xray was a 09 spec that I raced, Iam in the market again.
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Originally Posted by rfleck
Agreed, I have been driving the 2010 with modded drivetrain and it is awesome. It will be nice to actually replace the kyosho CVD's with Xray durability and longevity.

@JonW, If you haven't tried the overdrive on the front of the buggy, it is a whole new animal. Highly recommend! The rear end is super planted but yet the car has gobs of steering! The car can be driven super hard, almost idiotically, before getting out of shape.
Ron what exactly are the drivetrain mods done to your 2010? I just picked one up off of here and wanted to make sure it's ready to go before spring.

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Originally Posted by MattP
Ron what exactly are the drivetrain mods done to your 2010? I just picked one up off of here and wanted to make sure it's ready to go before spring.

Thanks
Probably cost you about 100 bucks for everything.


Originally Posted by mcion
This is what I used...

XT8 Rear Bulkhead - XRA352000
XT8 Front Bulkhead - XRA352001 -
XT8 Pinion - XRA355108 x 2
8 x 16 x 5 bearings x 4
Front Brace plastic can be used, must slightly trim to fit maybe a couple of mm. (Not noticable)
Radio Tray must trim slightly couple mm, (Not Noticable)
Aluminum Rear Brace (Must Trim to Fit) - XRA353086
Kyosho MP9 Driveshaft Front - KYOIF457
Kyosho MP9 Driveshaft Rear - KYOIF458
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Originally Posted by mcion
Probably cost you about 100 bucks for everything.


Originally Posted by mcion
This is what I used...

XT8 Rear Bulkhead - XRA352000
XT8 Front Bulkhead - XRA352001 -
XT8 Pinion - XRA355108 x 2
8 x 16 x 5 bearings x 4
Front Brace plastic can be used, must slightly trim to fit maybe a couple of mm. (Not noticable)
Radio Tray must trim slightly couple mm, (Not Noticable)
Aluminum Rear Brace (Must Trim to Fit) - XRA353086
Kyosho MP9 Driveshaft Front - KYOIF457
Kyosho MP9 Driveshaft Rear - KYOIF458
Thanks for posting that.

Would I be better off waiting and buying 2011 parts or doing that mod?
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Originally Posted by MattP
Ron what exactly are the drivetrain mods done to your 2010? I just picked one up off of here and wanted to make sure it's ready to go before spring.

Thanks
I used XB8 bulkheads (1 front and 1 rear) with 8x16 bearings (4 total), XT8 10 tooth pinions (2 total), Kyosho center swing shafts from and rear. You will have to dremel the front bulk head quite a bit in order for the ackerman to clear. You will also need to dremel the rear bulk head to allow camber links to move freely as they will touch the bulkhead.

I used a rear aluminum brace which had to be dremelled quite a bit in order for the rear swing shafts to clear. I then reinforced this with carbon fiber.

Several have done this same mod or similar.

For the rear carbon reinforcement brace, you can contact outfrontframes.com
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