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Old 01-08-2011, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by morgoth
How do you guys sort you springs? They those little labels on them, but after a few runs they are gone. I'd rather not mix up my springs...
I would be nice that Mugen used colored springs like most other brands do.
How you guys mark your springs?
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Absolutely hate the Mugen spring chart. Color the springs Mugen and be done with it.

One of the first things I do with new springs is rip off those little fag tags. You may need them if you also label your shoes left and right. reading mugen springs really is easy as counting fingers.

All that time we spent back in the day huffing paint stripper so our little cars could have sexy black springs. I don't want to go back there.

I'll try to put a little tutorial together tomorrow if no one beats me to it.
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Originally Posted by morgoth
I have all springs from 9-10 and from 10-11. I'll see if easy to see the difference between them. They are different by 1/4 of a coil :/

Do you think you spray some lexan paint om them?
Heat shrink in various colors works for me...Slide it onto the coil, heat it slightly, and then make a note as to what color coincides with that spring rate.
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Old 01-09-2011, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedychris22
adding a pic to add some color to this thread
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/DSC02512.jpg
Wicked color scheme! Have a Punisher that I need to paint for my mbx6 but I guess it will be a one color body Maybe 2

@Jonny: Great idea. Looking forward to your tut.
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Hello fellow Mugenites, When I built my MBX6 I made some simple gaskets from paper shop towel for the gear cases/chassis and it's worked very well at keeping the inside of the cases clean. I think I'll make some better ones out of something more substantial. Does anyone know where I can find some decent light-duty gasket material to make them from?
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I would think an auto parts store would have several different sheets of gasket making material
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Originally Posted by shinnbad12
Another sweet job by Fastlane Nice work chicken farmer

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I really like that jconcept body. looks like a stealth bomber in a certain way
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Originally Posted by morgoth
Wicked color scheme! Have a Punisher that I need to paint for my mbx6 but I guess it will be a one color body Maybe 2

@Jonny: Great idea. Looking forward to your tut.
I prefer the punisher body over any other body design, it's def makes the buggy look better
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Default Guide to mugen springs.

just simple how to on deciphering mugen springs.



pictured left to right: 10.0, 10.25, 10.5, 10.75, 11.0
the white marks indicated the ends of the springs. the bottoms are lined up in the same direction. the tops you can see the 1/4, 1/2...etc turn extra.




when counting start at the end of the spring makes contact with its' first coil. this would be coil 1.




counting starts straight up from the spring end. this would be coil 2, and so on and so forth.




when you reach the top, in this case 10 coils. you will be faced with some "extra". and here it will be in 1/4 turn increments, up to a full turn. in this example 1/2 turn. making this a 10.5 spring.



don't forget to count the extra coil on top. in this case we counted up to 10, and here the coil wraps a full turn again. making this an 11.0 spring.


hope this explains things for some. it was a fun little photo project for me.

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Tony showed me the same thing, but this was a great diagram. I am hopefully get a buggy next weekend to run at Raceworld, so if you have time, I may hit you up for some setups.

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I like these plano boxes for storing springs. have one for the fronts, and one for the rears. springs fit perfect, nice and compact.



plano model # is: 3449
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Tony showed me the same thing, but this was a great diagram. I am hopefully get a buggy next weekend to run at Raceworld, so if you have time, I may hit you up for some setups.

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Originally Posted by Davidka
Hello fellow Mugenites, When I built my MBX6 I made some simple gaskets from paper shop towel for the gear cases/chassis and it's worked very well at keeping the inside of the cases clean. I think I'll make some better ones out of something more substantial. Does anyone know where I can find some decent light-duty gasket material to make them from?
Most gasket material I've found and used in the Automotive world is thicker than you would want to use. I've often used cardboard from a thin cardboard box or even like what alot of R/C parts bags have stapled over the top to make gaskets. Nice and thin and generally comes with things you buy so it's kinda free.
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Originally Posted by morgoth
I don't know if you guys are interested in this, but this is a very nice guide I found. It's a pleasure to read and it's very very interesting.

I was still struggling with the effects of anti squat and roll center (we race on high grip astroturf and sometimes on loamy low bite bumpy/blown tracks).
The website explains it very nice! It's imo a little better than the hudy setup book. Respect for the author!

Here's the link: http://users.telenet.be/elvo/
LOL...I don't think I can classify this as "a pleasure to read", but it did give me some great info that I've been looking for. A little on the technical side (for my personal taste) but definitely explains a lot.
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Originally Posted by johnny t
just simple how to on deciphering mugen springs.



pictured left to right: 10.0, 10.25, 10.5, 10.75, 11.0
the white marks indicated the ends of the springs. the bottoms are lined up in the same direction. the tops you can see the 1/4, 1/2...etc turn extra.




when counting start at the end of the spring makes contact with its' first coil. this would be coil 1.




counting starts straight up from the spring end. this would be coil 2, and so on and so forth.




when you reach the top, in this case 10 coils. you will be faced with some "extra". and here it will be in 1/4 turn increments, up to a full turn. in this example 1/2 turn. making this a 10.5 spring.



don't forget to count the extra coil on top. in this case we counted up to 10, and here the coil wraps a full turn again. making this an 11.0 spring.


hope this explains things for some. it was a fun little photo project for me.
Very nice Johnny! I need to bookmark this link
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Originally Posted by Matt2979
LOL...I don't think I can classify this as "a pleasure to read", but it did give me some great info that I've been looking for. A little on the technical side (for my personal taste) but definitely explains a lot.
I'm very interessted in this stuff so yes, I read it with pleassure. I don't like reading books, but I like to read about this stuff. I've had a lot of physics at school so I understand the most things they are telling about. And I also race simulators on my PC and all setting up the car is important too there. I race casually now, but I raced hardcore a formula BMW in LFS with a team a few years ago.

I love the part about aerodynamics. Too bad this doesn't play a very large role in offroad rc. Exept the for the wing. You can't drive without it.
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