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Old 07-19-2010, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by donrod
drop the rear roll center to bottom and you should all the traction you will need.
Cheers Pal ill give that a go

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to calm the rear end down on throttle try the following:
- move rear hubs/arms forward
- stiffen rear diff (yes, stiffen... will be harder to drive off throttle though).

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Hi Paul,

thaks for that i thought a thicker rear diff oil would help

ill also try the hubs as well

Cheers all
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Old 07-19-2010, 02:40 PM
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Use the upper hole in the rear uprights, that will also give you massive grip.
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Old 07-19-2010, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulus
Use the upper hole in the rear uprights, that will also give you massive grip.


The rear uprights do you mean the rollcenter on the rear shocktower as the guy above says to drop that to the bottom????

Slightly confused now
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:10 PM
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First try the rear camberlink in the lowest hole on the schoktower, if you then steel need more grip use the upperhole in the rearhub.

Mayby you can give Savoya's european championship setup a try, that was on a very low traction track.

http://www.neobuggy.net/images/News/..._euros2010.pdf
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by R/C GUS
Is there much difference between the mbx6 and the mbx6 m spec ?
A bit late but thanks for all the info .

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Old 07-19-2010, 04:14 PM
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You should be able to get great traction from the Mugen. I know if you drive hard, it's easy to break all these buggies loose. For my liking, I run a weaker clutch spring. That slows down the snap.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:18 PM
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Results may vary but, in my experience, the higher pin location on the hub yields less traction mid corner not more. Higher in location=low roll center...Someone correct me if I'm wrong here

As Donnie mentioned, use the lower hole on the tower, outside on the hub. If that doesn't work, go up in the rear diff and maybe run the rear arms flatter (low position on antisquat).

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Old 07-19-2010, 09:01 PM
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Somebody tried Losi SMART diff in the centre (or front) on MBX6?
What impressions?
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Old 07-20-2010, 02:03 AM
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by morgoth
The top of my bladders is always pushed in a bit... Arrrgh
I just tested my shock with own cut foam,the shock feel lot more consistent.
Love this set up.And the bladders will never push in.

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Old 07-20-2010, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by s porter
Results may vary but, in my experience, the higher pin location on the hub yields less traction mid corner not more. Higher in location=low roll center...Someone correct me if I'm wrong here

As Donnie mentioned, use the lower hole on the tower, outside on the hub. If that doesn't work, go up in the rear diff and maybe run the rear arms flatter (low position on antisquat).
That's what I'm thinking too. Lower roll center = less grip... The upper hole is good for high traction tracks imo.
Originally Posted by James khoo
I just tested my shock with own cut foam,the shock feel lot more consistent.
Love this set up.And the bladders will never push in.

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Do you have a pic of that? My bladders of my brand new mbx6 collapse after 1 run...
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:06 AM
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Is anybody running a different bladder than the mugen one? I seem to have the collasping problem as well. I saw one setup where the guy was using D8 bladders.
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Originally Posted by JoeC
Is anybody running a different bladder than the mugen one? I seem to have the collasping problem as well. I saw one setup where the guy was using D8 bladders.
The D8 bladder work perfectly it's amazing how much the car is in the rough and the car just does what ever you want it to.
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Old 07-20-2010, 01:51 PM
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[QUOTE=morgoth;7694239]That's what I'm thinking too. Lower roll center = less grip... The upper hole is good for high traction tracks imo.

Just goes to show you, you need to be careful what information you believe around here. Best advice I can give someone learning is too pester the heck out of the local club race pro
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Old 07-20-2010, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeC
Is anybody running a different bladder than the mugen one? I seem to have the collasping problem as well. I saw one setup where the guy was using D8 bladders.
The problem I noticed with mugen bladders is the "feel" on the track change as the day or race progressed. whether that was due to the bladders collapsing or what I was not sure. Now I run a foam backer with a vented cap and things stay the same throughout a run. Plus the car looks more stable and not bouncing around as much, probably due to the self dampening characteristics of foam as opposed to a bouncy air ball. And opening the shock to see a sunken bladder was not reassuring, even using various tire foam backers did not stop that.

I was using losi bladders for awhile but have found xray (the ribless ones) bladders can work too with foam backer. vented cap of course.

The xray fit loose like the losi's do at first. but had to wait for that mythical xray quality to reveal it self and allow to swell after being exposed to shockoil. now they snap into the cap like the mugen does. In addition the shock is easier to bleed and the shock shaft does not protrude into the bladder as far. How these shocks are designed (almost all manf.) for the shaft to hit these delicate bladders is beyond me.

The big stumbling block I came across during my conversion to vented caps is finding the right foam. everything I tried would not hold up, even AKA tire foam would break down after a day and handling would change. I heard some guys using onroad tire foam.


Just forwarding my experiences with something that others seem wanting to do as well. I may put together a little photo tutorial of the entire conversion if enough are interested.

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