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Old 07-19-2010, 02:19 AM
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Besides one being built and the other not? Nope.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by R/C GUS
Is there much difference between the mbx6 and the mbx6 m spec ?
I thought the shock springs were different...
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaf1977
I thought the shock springs were different...
the m-spec has the same springs (and swaybars... and air filter... and diff outdrives... all the updated stuff) as all the updated kits that have been on the market since spring 2009.

M-spec = built kit

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Old 07-19-2010, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Lonestar
the m-spec has the same springs (and swaybars... and air filter... and diff outdrives... all the updated stuff) as all the updated kits that have been on the market since spring 2009.

M-spec = built kit

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The M spec has the M spec setup. It has softer springs (11f 10r) than the kit (10.75f 9.75r) and prolly some other swaybars. And oh, it's prebuild.
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Originally Posted by morgoth
The M spec has the M spec setup. It has softer springs (11f 10r) than the kit (10.75f 9.75r) and prolly some other swaybars. And oh, it's prebuild.
My fault - you are correct on the springs it DOES have the stock 2.3/2.8mm swaybars though
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:14 AM
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Chaps,

I love the steering, the jumping, the acceleration....

But id like the arse to stick a bit more, what can 1 do to help this?

10 10 5 with underdrive

550F 500R shock oil

1.25 x 6 tapered pistons all round

rear roll center is 2nd from top


Should i just try to be more gentle with the throttle or is there something i can do?

was thinking of going 15 15 10 in the diffs?
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:26 AM
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drop the rear roll center to bottom and you should all the traction you will need.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Megacrash
Chaps,

I love the steering, the jumping, the acceleration....

But id like the arse to stick a bit more, what can 1 do to help this?

10 10 5 with underdrive

550F 500R shock oil

1.25 x 6 tapered pistons all round

rear roll center is 2nd from top


Should i just try to be more gentle with the throttle or is there something i can do?

was thinking of going 15 15 10 in the diffs?
Here is the crazy thing. I think the box set up is awesome even for rear traction. Coming from losi the mugen rear is planted. Sometimes too much. I believe its 90 % tire choice along with finger control. The tires I feel that are best on the mugen in my area are the losi xbt up front and eclispe on the rear silver.

Remember mugen loves these types of compounds. The larger the lug the harder the tire. Smaller lug soft tire. Try a set of hard tires with a big lug. You will love it.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:38 AM
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One more thing. People change too many option parts out that really don't need to be done. I had every single hop up part on my old 2.0 and it drove like crap. It would break easy and I was always chasing a set up that would stick. There were times when I would set it up run it it a couple of laps and the whole set up changed. I would be off by a couple of mm.

The more you change out the worse it gets in my opinion.
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I'll second that comparison of Mugen to Losi and tire selection. I went back to Mugen and ran the MBX6 this weekend (Had MBX6 when it first came out then got a Losi 2.0) and have to say kit setup was dialed. Ran a M-Spec and only changed the diffs to 7/5/5, moved shocks all the way in on tower, moved the rear camber link to center on hub and 3* toe plate. Ran outdoor on a hard/dusty/slick track. Ran AKA Hard Crossbraces on front and hard I-Beam's on back. Car was dialed.......I have to say I am not sure why I went away from the mugen in the first place.....

Question, has anyone tried the emulsion shocks (hole in cap and foam behind the bladders)?
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Megacrash
Chaps,

I love the steering, the jumping, the acceleration....

But id like the arse to stick a bit more, what can 1 do to help this?

10 10 5 with underdrive

550F 500R shock oil

1.25 x 6 tapered pistons all round

rear roll center is 2nd from top


Should i just try to be more gentle with the throttle or is there something i can do?

was thinking of going 15 15 10 in the diffs?
Have you tried 450 or 400 in the rear?
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Originally Posted by jsmax
I'll second that comparison of Mugen to Losi and tire selection. I went back to Mugen and ran the MBX6 this weekend (Had MBX6 when it first came out then got a Losi 2.0) and have to say kit setup was dialed. Ran a M-Spec and only changed the diffs to 7/5/5, moved shocks all the way in on tower, moved the rear camber link to center on hub and 3* toe plate. Ran outdoor on a hard/dusty/slick track. Ran AKA Hard Crossbraces on front and hard I-Beam's on back. Car was dialed.......I have to say I am not sure why I went away from the mugen in the first place.....

Question, has anyone tried the emulsion shocks (hole in cap and foam behind the bladders)?

Just so hard to beat the mugen. Welcome back.
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:09 AM
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Yea, After the first tank at Mikes (Very first even on a new kit) I was like.....why did I get rid of the Mugen in the first place? Ordered the king headz extended motor mount for it this morning....too many clutch bell hits killing it....
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Originally Posted by donrod
drop the rear roll center to bottom and you should all the traction you will need.
donrod....................do you have by chance dylans setup from the fuel nats here in colorado?????????? thanks jrod
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Originally Posted by jsmax
Yea, After the first tank at Mikes (Very first even on a new kit) I was like.....why did I get rid of the Mugen in the first place? Ordered the king headz extended motor mount for it this morning....too many clutch bell hits killing it....
So were you happy with the build quality of the M-spec? I was thinking of getting an M-spec truggy because they are a few bucks less. I feel that I have finally found a setup that I can run pretty much anywhere now. It has treated me good indoors and for the 1 trip I have made to mikes.
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