What buggies RCTECH users own...
11-20-2007, 05:46 AM
#16
Buggy model: GS Racing CL-1 Pro
Tuning included: Marty Korn setup
Advantages: Very durable, high quality plastic, light weight, hasn't broken any part yet (only replaced bearings after +-10gallon of fuel), 7075 T6 alu parts.
Disadvantages: The price.
General opinion/Additional comments: This buggy was designed by grand father of 1/8 buggies, Mr. Claude Lachat.
Tuning included: Marty Korn setup
Advantages: Very durable, high quality plastic, light weight, hasn't broken any part yet (only replaced bearings after +-10gallon of fuel), 7075 T6 alu parts.
Disadvantages: The price.
General opinion/Additional comments: This buggy was designed by grand father of 1/8 buggies, Mr. Claude Lachat.
11-20-2007, 07:18 AM
#17
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Buggy: Losi 8ight
Engine: Werks B7 Pro
Pipe: JP-1
Radio: M8 with Spektrum
Servos: Varies, right now Hitec MG 5945 steering, futaba something for throttle.
Options: Aluminum rear chassis brace, 3 toe 4 anti-squat rear hinge pin holder. Mugen flywheel and clutch, aluminum shoes, 1's for springs.
Tuning: -1 camber all around. 1 degree front toe. Long ackerman plate for less abrupt steering. Silver front green rear springs. 54 front shock pistons, 55 rear. 45-40 shock oils. 5-5-3 diffs. 14t clutch bell. Proline high downforce wing for traction in sweepers. Rear hub carriers forward. Lower inside upper link setting, lower front upper link setting. Shocks 1 hole out on top and inside hole on the bottom all around. Factory droop and preload settings.
Pros: Nothing steers like a Losi! Acceleration is mind blowing, most folks say you don't need anything but a 3-port because it is so light. Jumps flat and stable. Recovers easily from bobbles. Does exactly what you tell it to!!!!! I can come down the inside of the straight and still turn inside most cars. Carries incredible corner speed.
Cons: Front center CVA pin wear (dogbone end) and center diff case wear.
Have to remember to shim the center CVA's a bit to be sure they don't pop out. DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU TELL IT TO- yes, that can be bad too!
Push it hard and it will bite you.
Have to buy SAE tools instead of the metric ones most people have in their box.
Engine: Werks B7 Pro
Pipe: JP-1
Radio: M8 with Spektrum
Servos: Varies, right now Hitec MG 5945 steering, futaba something for throttle.
Options: Aluminum rear chassis brace, 3 toe 4 anti-squat rear hinge pin holder. Mugen flywheel and clutch, aluminum shoes, 1's for springs.
Tuning: -1 camber all around. 1 degree front toe. Long ackerman plate for less abrupt steering. Silver front green rear springs. 54 front shock pistons, 55 rear. 45-40 shock oils. 5-5-3 diffs. 14t clutch bell. Proline high downforce wing for traction in sweepers. Rear hub carriers forward. Lower inside upper link setting, lower front upper link setting. Shocks 1 hole out on top and inside hole on the bottom all around. Factory droop and preload settings.
Pros: Nothing steers like a Losi! Acceleration is mind blowing, most folks say you don't need anything but a 3-port because it is so light. Jumps flat and stable. Recovers easily from bobbles. Does exactly what you tell it to!!!!! I can come down the inside of the straight and still turn inside most cars. Carries incredible corner speed.
Cons: Front center CVA pin wear (dogbone end) and center diff case wear.
Have to remember to shim the center CVA's a bit to be sure they don't pop out. DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU TELL IT TO- yes, that can be bad too!
Push it hard and it will bite you.
Have to buy SAE tools instead of the metric ones most people have in their box.
11-20-2007, 07:34 AM
#18
Car: Kyosho MP777 WC
Engine: O.S. V-Spec with TKO ceramic bearings
Pipe: O.S. 2050
Options: Kyosho Big Bore shocks, Kyosho lightweight universals, K-Factory hinge pins, Tony's Screws, King Headz engine mount
Pros: Top notch parts quality, very fast on rough tracks, lands jumps like a wet rag, forgiving to drive
Cons: Quality costs money, big bores have to be purchased separately right now, not the fastest turning or hardest accelerating car available, not the lightest either
Engine: O.S. V-Spec with TKO ceramic bearings
Pipe: O.S. 2050
Options: Kyosho Big Bore shocks, Kyosho lightweight universals, K-Factory hinge pins, Tony's Screws, King Headz engine mount
Pros: Top notch parts quality, very fast on rough tracks, lands jumps like a wet rag, forgiving to drive
Cons: Quality costs money, big bores have to be purchased separately right now, not the fastest turning or hardest accelerating car available, not the lightest either
11-20-2007, 09:12 AM
#20
Buggy model: MP777 SP2
Tuning included:
Engine:
- Novarossi Medial M2K with a fresh RayAracing pinch
- Novarossi pipe
- Novarossi long header
Electronics:
- M8 w/Novak Spectrum
- Novak XXTRA receiver
- Futaba S9401 throttle servo
- JR Z650M steering servo
- Venom onboard temp
- Team Orion NiMH receiver pack
Aftermarket:
- Racers Edge chassis braces
- Racers Edge front steering knuckles
- Racers Edge front shock tower
- Racers Edge aluminum shock ends
- Racers Edge (K Factory) motor plate
- Racers Edge lower B-block
- JConcepts high downforce wing
- Pro-Line Crowd Pleazer 2.0 body
- Losi 8ight air filter assembly
- Kyosho spoke wheels
- Komodo Dragon tires
- Dynamite aluminum servo horns
Setup(Not that it matters since every track is different):
- 3 degrees negative camber up front
- 3 degrees of rear toe
- The rest of the suspension is default factory rec. setup
- 50f/40r shock oil
- Blue springs
- 5000f/7000c/1000r diff oil
- Wing set to highest attack setting
- Kyosho 1.0 clutch springs
- Kyosho aluminum clutch shoes (blue)
Advantages:
- Amazingly durable
- Handles very well
- Responds well to being leaned on and pushed HARD
- Flys predictably
- Responds the best to the largest range of driving styles
- The design that basically set the standard in 8th scale buggies. The Losi and Associated are the only ones of any value to stray away from the basic Kyosho design
Disadvantages:
- A bit on the heavy side
- Doesn't turn as well as the Losi
- LOCAL parts availability can be tricky (online is a non-issue)
- Parts not as cheap as Losi or Associated
General opinion/Additional comments:
I have run a lot of different 8th scale buggies over the years and I always end up back at the Kyoshos. My 3 year old SP2 will still run with all of the current vintage buggies.
I have NOT driven a Losi yet but will next time I am at the track so I don't have a direct comparison but from what I have seen the Losi flys a bit better and turns in quicker - but realistically, for the average driver the Losi's advantages will be lost in the form of driving inconsistency.
Tuning included:
Engine:
- Novarossi Medial M2K with a fresh RayAracing pinch
- Novarossi pipe
- Novarossi long header
Electronics:
- M8 w/Novak Spectrum
- Novak XXTRA receiver
- Futaba S9401 throttle servo
- JR Z650M steering servo
- Venom onboard temp
- Team Orion NiMH receiver pack
Aftermarket:
- Racers Edge chassis braces
- Racers Edge front steering knuckles
- Racers Edge front shock tower
- Racers Edge aluminum shock ends
- Racers Edge (K Factory) motor plate
- Racers Edge lower B-block
- JConcepts high downforce wing
- Pro-Line Crowd Pleazer 2.0 body
- Losi 8ight air filter assembly
- Kyosho spoke wheels
- Komodo Dragon tires
- Dynamite aluminum servo horns
Setup(Not that it matters since every track is different):
- 3 degrees negative camber up front
- 3 degrees of rear toe
- The rest of the suspension is default factory rec. setup
- 50f/40r shock oil
- Blue springs
- 5000f/7000c/1000r diff oil
- Wing set to highest attack setting
- Kyosho 1.0 clutch springs
- Kyosho aluminum clutch shoes (blue)
Advantages:
- Amazingly durable
- Handles very well
- Responds well to being leaned on and pushed HARD
- Flys predictably
- Responds the best to the largest range of driving styles
- The design that basically set the standard in 8th scale buggies. The Losi and Associated are the only ones of any value to stray away from the basic Kyosho design
Disadvantages:
- A bit on the heavy side
- Doesn't turn as well as the Losi
- LOCAL parts availability can be tricky (online is a non-issue)
- Parts not as cheap as Losi or Associated
General opinion/Additional comments:
I have run a lot of different 8th scale buggies over the years and I always end up back at the Kyoshos. My 3 year old SP2 will still run with all of the current vintage buggies.
I have NOT driven a Losi yet but will next time I am at the track so I don't have a direct comparison but from what I have seen the Losi flys a bit better and turns in quicker - but realistically, for the average driver the Losi's advantages will be lost in the form of driving inconsistency.
11-20-2007, 09:32 AM
#21
Buggy #2
Buggy model: MP777
Tuning included:
- Stock currently
- Partially assembled
- Awaiting electric conversion
Advantages:
- NA (Never drove it, got it with my SP2 as a package, had a Kanai III prior)
Disadvantages:
- NA (Never drove it, got it with my SP2 as a package, had a Kanai III prior)
General opinion/Additional comments:
Got the unbuilt kit with my SP2. Partially built it out of boredom one day. It serves as a parts car but will get one of the Novak electric conversions when they are released.
Buggy model: MP777
Tuning included:
- Stock currently
- Partially assembled
- Awaiting electric conversion
Advantages:
- NA (Never drove it, got it with my SP2 as a package, had a Kanai III prior)
Disadvantages:
- NA (Never drove it, got it with my SP2 as a package, had a Kanai III prior)
General opinion/Additional comments:
Got the unbuilt kit with my SP2. Partially built it out of boredom one day. It serves as a parts car but will get one of the Novak electric conversions when they are released.
11-20-2007, 10:31 AM
#22
Buggy #3
Buggy model: Losi XXX-4 G+
Tuning included:
Electronics:
- M8 w/Novak synth module
- Novak XXTRA receiver
- JR Z590M servo
- Novak Velociti 5.5 brushless system
Aftermarket:
- Kyosho MP777 rear wing
- Proline Holeshots
- Losi HD belt conversion
- Losi Aurora body
Advantages:
- Handles well
- Light
- CHEAP parts
- No issue getting parts
Disadvantages:
- Not much aftermarket support
- Fragile
- Belt drive/clutch not happy with brushless
General opinion/Additional comments:
Fun. I can drive it just as well as I can drive a friend's BJ4 - cost me half as much. Brushless makes it ballistic. Loctite the slipper. Keep lots of spare rear arms and hinge cups. Once I get the suspension dialed in for the local track I am pretty sure I can run laps at or faster than my SP2.
Buggy model: Losi XXX-4 G+
Tuning included:
Electronics:
- M8 w/Novak synth module
- Novak XXTRA receiver
- JR Z590M servo
- Novak Velociti 5.5 brushless system
Aftermarket:
- Kyosho MP777 rear wing
- Proline Holeshots
- Losi HD belt conversion
- Losi Aurora body
Advantages:
- Handles well
- Light
- CHEAP parts
- No issue getting parts
Disadvantages:
- Not much aftermarket support
- Fragile
- Belt drive/clutch not happy with brushless
General opinion/Additional comments:
Fun. I can drive it just as well as I can drive a friend's BJ4 - cost me half as much. Brushless makes it ballistic. Loctite the slipper. Keep lots of spare rear arms and hinge cups. Once I get the suspension dialed in for the local track I am pretty sure I can run laps at or faster than my SP2.
11-20-2007, 12:26 PM
#23
Buggy model:xb8 tq
Tuning included:alu. knuckles, alu. rear hubs, and QC engine mount
Advanteges:Handles great and is durable as all hell
Disadvantages: None that I can think of
General opinion/Additional comments: Buy mine!
Tuning included:alu. knuckles, alu. rear hubs, and QC engine mount
Advanteges:Handles great and is durable as all hell
Disadvantages: None that I can think of
General opinion/Additional comments: Buy mine!
11-20-2007, 04:40 PM
#24
Buggy: Losi 8ight
Engine: OS V SPEC
Pipe: JP-1
Radio: M11 Prestige
Servos: Airtronics 94358 x2
Options: Mip Clutch / King Headz motor mount
Tuning: Travis Amezcua 2006 nats set up
Pros: Fits my driving style, FAST, handles great , easy to get parts
Cons: The CVA pins work loose sometimes. I put heat shrink around them and it seems to help
Engine: OS V SPEC
Pipe: JP-1
Radio: M11 Prestige
Servos: Airtronics 94358 x2
Options: Mip Clutch / King Headz motor mount
Tuning: Travis Amezcua 2006 nats set up
Pros: Fits my driving style, FAST, handles great , easy to get parts
Cons: The CVA pins work loose sometimes. I put heat shrink around them and it seems to help
11-20-2007, 07:05 PM
#25
Car: Xray Xb8 TQ
Engine: RB Mods Novarossi 3-port w/ jp-3 pipe
Fuel: Byrons Origionals
Tires: Werks Racing
Hop-ups: None all the good stuff come in the kit. (like it should be)
Pros: Best buggy on the market. Unsurpassed fit and finish, and quality.
Handles like a dream. And very easy to tune on your set-up. Takes a beating. The best customer support form the office and team drivers.
Cons: None with the car, but parts can be hard to get at the LHS, but who needs parts when they don't break.
General opinion: Even not being a team driver, I wouldn't waste mytime and $$ on anything else. Just hands down the best buggy on the market.
Engine: RB Mods Novarossi 3-port w/ jp-3 pipe
Fuel: Byrons Origionals
Tires: Werks Racing
Hop-ups: None all the good stuff come in the kit. (like it should be)
Pros: Best buggy on the market. Unsurpassed fit and finish, and quality.
Handles like a dream. And very easy to tune on your set-up. Takes a beating. The best customer support form the office and team drivers.
Cons: None with the car, but parts can be hard to get at the LHS, but who needs parts when they don't break.
General opinion: Even not being a team driver, I wouldn't waste mytime and $$ on anything else. Just hands down the best buggy on the market.
11-20-2007, 08:40 PM
#26
Registered User
Buggy model: XB8EC
Tuning included: None it is a PRO kit, it shouldnt need any, and it dosnt
Advanteges: Highest quality parts, everything easily adjusted, great handling
Disadvantages: none realy
General opinion/Additional comments: It is a great buggy and I love it and would recomend it to anyone but in all truth any of the top buggys is nearly the same as the next
Tuning included: None it is a PRO kit, it shouldnt need any, and it dosnt
Advanteges: Highest quality parts, everything easily adjusted, great handling
Disadvantages: none realy
General opinion/Additional comments: It is a great buggy and I love it and would recomend it to anyone but in all truth any of the top buggys is nearly the same as the next
11-20-2007, 08:55 PM
#27
Buggy model: Xray XB8EC
Tuning included: Active diff in front on some tracks
Advanteges: Extremely tunable, excellent quality, exceptional drive train, and great parts/setup support here in Canada.
Disadvantages: To adjustable for some people, small shocks by the new standard, and lots of bump steer (compared to 1/10th cars)
General opinion/Additional comments: Above average chassis. I really do think it has tons of steering as I have raced with many good Losi drivers and my buggy turns in just as fast as any Losi.
Tuning included: Active diff in front on some tracks
Advanteges: Extremely tunable, excellent quality, exceptional drive train, and great parts/setup support here in Canada.
Disadvantages: To adjustable for some people, small shocks by the new standard, and lots of bump steer (compared to 1/10th cars)
General opinion/Additional comments: Above average chassis. I really do think it has tons of steering as I have raced with many good Losi drivers and my buggy turns in just as fast as any Losi.
11-20-2007, 09:12 PM
#28
im not running the same setup as before, so here is what im running now...
Mugen MBX5R
Go Tech 21-7 long tracks and 21-5 short tracks
Byrons 30%
DLD tires
advantages- the mugen buggy is very stable, and easy to drive, strong as a tank, and very easy to work on...
disadvantages- little on the heavy side, high price tag, needs big bore shocks...
im guessing that the MBX6 will fix most of the problems, all but the price tag...
Mugen MBX5R
Go Tech 21-7 long tracks and 21-5 short tracks
Byrons 30%
DLD tires
advantages- the mugen buggy is very stable, and easy to drive, strong as a tank, and very easy to work on...
disadvantages- little on the heavy side, high price tag, needs big bore shocks...
im guessing that the MBX6 will fix most of the problems, all but the price tag...
11-23-2007, 11:23 AM
#29
model: Jammin' X1 CR Pro
tunning (some included): CNC knuckles, alum. chassis braces, alum. center diff holder, fibre galss brakes, OCM flywheel.....looking at HD wings...
motor: Picco P7R Evo2+Ofna 053 pipe.
radio: Futaba 3PM with FASST Spectrum.
servos: KO Propo and Futaba.
Pros/Cons: Doesn't break (I've tried!). Forgiving. Fast enough for the moment. Not too agressive turning/accelerating
General opinion: I still have to drive better/harder/faster to be able to say if the car is up to the competition. It drives fast enough and feels smooth.
tunning (some included): CNC knuckles, alum. chassis braces, alum. center diff holder, fibre galss brakes, OCM flywheel.....looking at HD wings...
motor: Picco P7R Evo2+Ofna 053 pipe.
radio: Futaba 3PM with FASST Spectrum.
servos: KO Propo and Futaba.
Pros/Cons: Doesn't break (I've tried!). Forgiving. Fast enough for the moment. Not too agressive turning/accelerating
General opinion: I still have to drive better/harder/faster to be able to say if the car is up to the competition. It drives fast enough and feels smooth.
11-23-2007, 11:35 AM
#30
Buggy model:
Hyper 8.5
Tuning included:
Fiberglass brake rotors, rest is stock
Advanteges:
The car is easy to work on, is very affordable, with blow outs on ebay every week, owning the car is like being sponsored by ebay. comes with big bore shocks and uses all high end 7075 alumn. Well thought out to be cheap to build and maintain. much improved over the original. very durable
Disadvantages:
Does come with a 14tooth clutch bell, which most people will prefer a 13tooth. Car is a little heavy which is a disadvantage for some and an advantage for others. Stock tires aren't very good. comes with a spider diff, most pros use the standard diff. Stock brakes aren't the best.
General opinion/Additional comments:
The car just works for me, I like the way it drives, you can push it very hard. Also with the cheap parts on ebay its not as expensive to maintain it as other cars. Its built like a tank and can take a beating.
Hyper 8.5
Tuning included:
Fiberglass brake rotors, rest is stock
Advanteges:
The car is easy to work on, is very affordable, with blow outs on ebay every week, owning the car is like being sponsored by ebay.
comes with big bore shocks and uses all high end 7075 alumn. Well thought out to be cheap to build and maintain. much improved over the original. very durableDisadvantages:
Does come with a 14tooth clutch bell, which most people will prefer a 13tooth. Car is a little heavy which is a disadvantage for some and an advantage for others. Stock tires aren't very good. comes with a spider diff, most pros use the standard diff. Stock brakes aren't the best.
General opinion/Additional comments:
The car just works for me, I like the way it drives, you can push it very hard. Also with the cheap parts on ebay its not as expensive to maintain it as other cars. Its built like a tank and can take a beating.