silence360

Fantastic kit, we put it on my friends N1, and the difference is night and day. It now has proper travel, and droop. This should be a must have for every owner.

Licklobster

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nemo taking notes from tlr needing parts to work out of the box on brand new platforms, lol

silence360

Haha these guys took it to another level lol 🤣

speedy2

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Are the new +4 mm shocks ok too than ??

silence360

I wouldn't know as the VRP kit uses the rear shocks in the front as well. So front and rear now the same length.

Zerodefect

Has anyone measured full droop yet?

-5 front / -14mm rear? It's a ton of droop. But I've run it. Generally, some cars just aren't capable of that much.

In the midwest, there's rarely any high speed turns, bu often huge jumps. Droop is handy on US tracks.



Pic for illustrative purposes. I actually have to shim my 30mm blocks up 5mm, and recalculate. As I have more droop than the setup board allows for. (Suspension hits the board before full droop)

Zerodefect

Thr one I'm watching today, has nowhere near enough droop.

Very fast in slow corners. But with low downtravel, that doesn't mean much. Hopefully its just setup wrong.

Sir 51D3WAYS

^How do you know just by looking at it whether or not it has enough droop? Genuine question here, not trying to be an ass.

Mickey_B

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Keep hearing about droop and travel. What about performance and are people faster and more consistent than traditional buggy designs. I see ton of pics of them showing up on my Facebook wall, but I have to see someone talk about maintenance, how the car drives, etc.

I asked Tyler Jones about it, he said it was okay out of the box, but the vrp performance kit was amazing. I think he is sponsored by VRP so take that with a grain of salt.. I just wish people would give their honest opinion about things. It’s l

Zerodefect

It was an obvious lack of droop. The cars full droop was less than my chassis roll back, on throttle.

Im particularly good at spotting it. I was burned by HB racings truggy, that had limited suspension travel.

Hopefully he just setup wrong. Rest of the car looked great. But there is a pattern of euro and eastern cars not have travel for big air tracks.


I don't waste my time asking sponsored pros their opinion on anything. They're just shills.

silence360

He tried the kit before he became a factory driver for VRP, and it was because of that kit he left Agama. The car lacks droop period. Making the shocks 4mm longer adds droop, but then removes compression travel. It's a band aid. Picking up Tyler for the rest of a season was never in the plan of VRP. Agama didn't want him to run the VRP kit, but it was such a big difference that he didn't want to drive the car without it in a nutshell. The kit sold out soo fast, because it works.

Sir 51D3WAYS

I'm going to have to have you explain what chassis roll back is.

I thought the words "truggy" and "limited suspension travel" couldn't be in the same sentence?

Zerodefect

My HB truggy would bottom harshly sometimes. Adding pack stiffened it too much in any shock configuration. 5mm more droop would have been priceless.

My buggies front suspension is drooped more under hard acceleration than the Agama was in the air. Even my obsolete car, with shorter shocks, has more travel. Hopefully its a build issue.

But until someone actually puts the car in blocks and measures it........

hairymuffin

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it’s better than my last buggy,Which was the agama previous a319. My nitro buggy came with the old short shocks,I ran it briefly until I put the vrp kit on,it was dialed!! The old setup,was not good for over jumping big jumps,you had to be perfect down siding your landing,it handled it fine,but chassis slapping is not good.The vrp kit doesn’t have that issue…..now with the new ebuggy,it’s money out the box,but I added the vrp pistons. The stock pistons work ok,but they need to be drilled out. My son said my ebuggy was just as good as his HB,and he’s a top pro here in cali. He didn’t like my nitro as much,only because I can’t keep my shocks to be as consistent as the ebuggy,which is running bladders. The nitro is running emulsion,and my caps leak,causing air and inconsistent shocks. And this is on a big huge track with huge jumps and holes to match,loose powdery dirt,loamy when wet. I let another guy at my track drive my nitro,and within 3 laps,he was putting down the same laps as his own personal car. You’re in Texas,so I’m sure you’ve seen some at your track. I think you will find more people that say it’s just as good as their last car,but to say it’s better is hard to say honestly. It’s a different concept from traditional buggies,that works just as good,but looks way cooler lol. I need to build another kit with the new front shocks,without the vrp kit and compare,because my ebuggy is really good. Maintenance is a breeze,with the vrp kit,it takes longer the access the diffs. My son said my old short shocks lacked uptravel on the front end.