306LikesKyosho MP10 Thread
02-10-2019, 07:27 PM
#181
02-10-2019, 07:38 PM
#182
I’m trying to figure out why there’s such a big gap with my shock collars compared to other mp10s I see? I’m running 40w front and 30 w rear Losi oil ride ht 25 front 28 rear. Can’t figure it out. Re-bleaded shocks and still the same thing. I pre-compressed the springs before I original build. I hope I didn’t precompress them too much
what are the measurements for your collars? Our rears are at about 1 turn from the top on three cars to get around 27mm.the fronts are near the bottom of the threads on the shock body for 25mm
02-10-2019, 09:44 PM
#183
02-10-2019, 10:24 PM
#185
Tech Regular
As for stretching springs personally I wouldn’t. When I was young many a slinky died due to being stretched.
02-10-2019, 11:27 PM
#186
Tech Adept
What do you guys recommend. The mp10 or 8ight-x?
02-11-2019, 05:43 AM
#187
02-11-2019, 07:33 AM
#188
I had the 8ightX and was not fan. Rear end kept breaking loose. You to really do some work on the setup to get it to your liking. Also, take a look at how the pros are doing with the kit, nobody is really winning or doing that good with it either. Hell even Reno didn’t make the final at Montipiller , which considering it’s a track he probably races at a lot is telling. Other issue I found was the supposedly quick rear diff access, which was really cool in the vids, however when I tried to was not as easy especially getting the diff back in and case screws together.
The final straw that did for me was Horizon and parts being so damn expensive. A lot hype and cool features, but at the end of the day did not meet my expectations.
Now for the Mp10, I have not owned one. Only the Mp9e. Mp9e was nice and parts are easy to get from anywhere. You can say that since it was minor changes, buggy should still drive and respond to set up changes similarly to last model.
Of course at the end of the day why reinvent the wheel. Find out what the fast guys are running at your track and why. Most them have tried various buggies and run a certain brand because they feel they are most competitive with it. Think about who at the track you would get support from. If there is no TLR guys then your going to have a rough time and same with Kyosho. I always tell people look at the whole picture, try to get past the nice fancy marketing and really think abiut the variables.
The final straw that did for me was Horizon and parts being so damn expensive. A lot hype and cool features, but at the end of the day did not meet my expectations.
Now for the Mp10, I have not owned one. Only the Mp9e. Mp9e was nice and parts are easy to get from anywhere. You can say that since it was minor changes, buggy should still drive and respond to set up changes similarly to last model.
Of course at the end of the day why reinvent the wheel. Find out what the fast guys are running at your track and why. Most them have tried various buggies and run a certain brand because they feel they are most competitive with it. Think about who at the track you would get support from. If there is no TLR guys then your going to have a rough time and same with Kyosho. I always tell people look at the whole picture, try to get past the nice fancy marketing and really think abiut the variables.
02-11-2019, 09:43 AM
#189
Tech Master
So how does the MP10 compare to the TKI4? There are some significant changes to the suspension and weight distribution.
02-11-2019, 11:16 AM
#190
Tech Adept
I am looking for a durable buggy and parts that are fairly good price. My budget is $700 for the kit.
Any recommendations?
Any recommendations?
02-11-2019, 11:30 AM
#191
i was thinking you’ve tightened up the ball ends too much but I guess that shouldnt affect what you’re doing unless you’ve also mixed up the shafts front and rear. I may have done that once....
As for stretching springs personally I wouldn’t. When I was young many a slinky died due to being stretched.
That's why I can speak on it rather than speculate
02-11-2019, 01:36 PM
#192
Tech Regular
What length do you stretch it to to get the right deformation? For how long do you hold it? How do I then get consistency across both springs? You may then end up in a cycle of stressing in both directions compression and stretching a tensile material that will in turn work harden and/or deform beyond repair. It's a little like touching you toes, if you can't do it without someone jumping on your back it won't end well for you or the tensile parts in your back and legs..
02-11-2019, 02:04 PM
#193
Not sure how owning 2 MP10s relates to Hooke's Law but perhaps you can elaborate. Here's how it will go when stretching the spring:
What length do you stretch it to to get the right deformation? For how long do you hold it? How do I then get consistency across both springs? You may then end up in a cycle of stressing in both directions compression and stretching a tensile material that will in turn work harden and/or deform beyond repair. It's a little like touching you toes, if you can't do it without someone jumping on your back it won't end well for you or the tensile parts in your back and legs..
What length do you stretch it to to get the right deformation? For how long do you hold it? How do I then get consistency across both springs? You may then end up in a cycle of stressing in both directions compression and stretching a tensile material that will in turn work harden and/or deform beyond repair. It's a little like touching you toes, if you can't do it without someone jumping on your back it won't end well for you or the tensile parts in your back and legs..
If you over-compress the front springs on the MP10, they'll flatten out and you'll have to crank on them to get ride height. Period. Carry on.....smh.
02-11-2019, 05:25 PM
#195
why are you guys compressing the springs?