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Old 12-21-2018, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by shark2288 View Post
Does anyone have an idea on when these kits will be shipping out?
I'll have them around the middle of January (UK based)

So suspect it should be like that globally
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:42 AM
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supposedly 1/17 US
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Old 12-21-2018, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Arcain41 View Post
I agree with you. This is the biggest change. The MP9e Evo moved the CG forward and that thing turns on a dime.

Is this comment based on your own measurement? I've weighed both Mp9e TKI4 and Evo and I've found there's actually more weight bias toward the rear in the EVO with a 540gm battery. I do however agree it turns better which I think is a mix of better weight distribution (moving the weight closer to the roll centre), harder front springs and that simple yet effective change to the steering plate. But even better add the Kyosho 6.8mm Ball End Offset Type -KYOIS053, I've been running them for a few months and they work very well. I also reckon the much shorter drive to the front provides a power bias toward the front which would provide more pull than push from the rear (assuming equal grip). Need to put the car on a dyno to confirm that thought....
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It is not. More on balance point front vs rear. Mine with all the same electronics and battery moved the CG forward. I wish I had a 4 wheel scale system. I'm very happy with the car. It turns so much better then the TKI4. The TKI4 has been converted to nitro so I'm curious how different it will feel.
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Originally Posted by Arcain41 View Post
It is not. More on balance point front vs rear. Mine with all the same electronics and battery moved the CG forward. I wish I had a 4 wheel scale system. I'm very happy with the car. It turns so much better then the TKI4. The TKI4 has been converted to nitro so I'm curious how different it will feel.
Are you comparing tki4 e buggy vs evo?
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Old 12-22-2018, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AntH3000 View Post
The rear pivot is wider for shock temperatures? I'd like to see the physics on that on. For equivalent damping the same amount of energy needs to be managed.
They use a lot of big words that amount to nothing, they did it purely for the sake of lowering the rear roll center , reducing rear camber gain and make the car “rotate” better in tight turns , nothing new mugen has had it for years now, it just makes the car feel looser on the rear end.
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By widening the rear pivot they increased the rear roll stiffness. My guess is the lower shock mounting holes also moved out a little bit too, that would give the arm less advantage against the shock meaning the shock can be softer.

At at least that’s how I read the press release.
Exactly , just makes the rear end stiffer and more willing to rotate.
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Old 12-23-2018, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rcmoe View Post
Well I stand to be corrected. The arms are solid. Lots a new stuff. Rear plastic hubs....yuck! HA chassis that’s notched for clutch bell strike. Nice. Anybody got a price for this bad boy?




price at 729.99
the chassis plate seems thicker , + 2 mm longer at the rear...
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price at 729.99
the chassis plate seems thicker , + 2 mm longer at the rear...
US sticker is $699, not 729.
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Originally Posted by Ricardo_d99 View Post

They use a lot of big words that amount to nothing, they did it purely for the sake of lowering the rear roll center , reducing rear camber gain and make the car “rotate” better in tight turns , nothing new mugen has had it for years now, it just makes the car feel looser on the rear end.

Exactly , just makes the rear end stiffer and more willing to rotate.
Are the rear arms shorter?
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Originally Posted by AntH3000 View Post
Are the rear arms shorter?
i would say yes since the D-suspension holder is 5mm wider now.
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Originally Posted by Team_Orange View Post


i would say yes since the D-suspension holder is 5mm wider now.
If that is true that usually means increased roll centre migration during bump (it moving downwards further). For higher traction tracks this makes life harder I think.
Anyway where is 30tooth?!
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Originally Posted by AntH3000 View Post
If that is true that usually means increased roll centre migration during bump (it moving downwards further). For higher traction tracks this makes life harder I think.
Anyway where is 30tooth?!
It makes life harder everywhere and the roll centre migration does increase a lot with the lower roll center on the rear and the higher one on the front.
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Are the rear arms shorter?
Yup the arms are shorter and the holder are wider, the car is overall stiffer and harsher on tire
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the arms dont have to be shorter depending on where the hinge pin hole is on the rear hub.
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The nice thing is that you can use MP9 c-d blockm rear gearbox is the same.
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Originally Posted by HaulinBass View Post
the arms dont have to be shorter depending on where the hinge pin hole is on the rear hub.
the hinge pin hole on the hub is use for track width mostly , is far more important the inner hinge pin holder length.
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