12LikesKyosho news????
12-07-2018, 10:06 AM
#16
I have had every MP car since the MP-5. I'm not sure about other nitro buggies but I wish Kyosho would simplify the amount of different size and shape pills they use. If your in a hurry it can be hard to distinguish which pills are for which suspension blocks. Maybe JQ can weigh in on why this may or may not be possible. Also it is very strange that you do not get the hard anodized towers or chasiss but when you order the direct replacement parts you get the hard anodized versions.
12-07-2018, 11:40 AM
#17
12-07-2018, 02:47 PM
#20
On a whole the car is fairly solid but their are many areas that simply need refined.
Front arms are just junk. If your not racing in hot weather you will break front arms
B block pills are a major issue causing arm breakage. Pills get pushed back and the hinge pins pop out.
anodizing is sub par and lasts as long as a cake at fat camp
you have to pre drill a hole under the clutch bell to keep from the chassis flexing so much and hitting it.
fuel tank is garbage. the white internal filter disengrates and goes through the fuel system and if you dont have a filter it will go right to your engine. Not to mention no clunker.
chassis braces are like wet noodles and hold a bend after very little run time.
shielded bearings get dirty fast should be sealed bearings.
radio try is a pain to work on and is very flexible.
just to name a few
Front arms are just junk. If your not racing in hot weather you will break front arms
B block pills are a major issue causing arm breakage. Pills get pushed back and the hinge pins pop out.
anodizing is sub par and lasts as long as a cake at fat camp
you have to pre drill a hole under the clutch bell to keep from the chassis flexing so much and hitting it.
fuel tank is garbage. the white internal filter disengrates and goes through the fuel system and if you dont have a filter it will go right to your engine. Not to mention no clunker.
chassis braces are like wet noodles and hold a bend after very little run time.
shielded bearings get dirty fast should be sealed bearings.
radio try is a pain to work on and is very flexible.
just to name a few
i make the car my own by doing things to combat what you are mentioning ....
only things i find as "wear items" are front center axle and rear chassis brace
my cars can go long stents without a full rebuild .....
now in the hands of say a rookie driver who wrecks a lot .... i can see where the things you are mentioning may come into play . is it THE MOST durable car on the planet .... not even close .... is it an awesome race machine ... yes ..... with any car on the market there are quirks and lil things that will need to be addressed to make it somewhat "bulletproof"
as for the fuel system ..... theres not a person out there that has tuned any engine with the kyosho fuel system that can argue with me that it is the most consistent fuel system on the market ...... i say a system as it is designed to be used with the fuel filter/reservoir/pressure equalization piece in line .....
VIVA LA KYOSHO
happy motorin'
12-07-2018, 11:08 PM
#25
Tech Master
12-07-2018, 11:37 PM
#26
Tech Master
I have had every MP car since the MP-5. I'm not sure about other nitro buggies but I wish Kyosho would simplify the amount of different size and shape pills they use. If your in a hurry it can be hard to distinguish which pills are for which suspension blocks. Maybe JQ can weigh in on why this may or may not be possible. Also it is very strange that you do not get the hard anodized towers or chasiss but when you order the direct replacement parts you get the hard anodized versions.
For anyone that has read my blog, you will know that I have held the Kyosho in high regard, and referred to the "Magic" that you feel driving it, when the setup is right. If I was Kyosho I would make sure to not lose that, but at the same time create a new platform. Modernise and simplify the design, both image and function, and add the "right" adjustability. Then the stock setup is known and safe, and it has the new required set up possibilities that enable further development.
12-08-2018, 08:23 AM
#27
I know I will be attacked again for saying what I think but here it goes.
The mp9 doesn't need anything performance wise. Are the front arms weak? Maybe yes but think this way, better to break an arm than tweak something more important like the holders or the chassis. Every other car is moving to stiffer plastics to have better performance, the entire car only needs to have top notch performance for an one hour main,any more than that means carrying extra weight or other disadvantages. I can live with that, if you can't then there's plenty of other cars that don't break as often, but don't claim the others to be perfect.
The mp9 doesn't need anything performance wise. Are the front arms weak? Maybe yes but think this way, better to break an arm than tweak something more important like the holders or the chassis. Every other car is moving to stiffer plastics to have better performance, the entire car only needs to have top notch performance for an one hour main,any more than that means carrying extra weight or other disadvantages. I can live with that, if you can't then there's plenty of other cars that don't break as often, but don't claim the others to be perfect.
12-08-2018, 08:49 PM
#28
Tech Master
I know I will be attacked again for saying what I think but here it goes.
The mp9 doesn't need anything performance wise. Are the front arms weak? Maybe yes but think this way, better to break an arm than tweak something more important like the holders or the chassis. Every other car is moving to stiffer plastics to have better performance, the entire car only needs to have top notch performance for an one hour main,any more than that means carrying extra weight or other disadvantages. I can live with that, if you can't then there's plenty of other cars that don't break as often, but don't claim the others to be perfect.
The mp9 doesn't need anything performance wise. Are the front arms weak? Maybe yes but think this way, better to break an arm than tweak something more important like the holders or the chassis. Every other car is moving to stiffer plastics to have better performance, the entire car only needs to have top notch performance for an one hour main,any more than that means carrying extra weight or other disadvantages. I can live with that, if you can't then there's plenty of other cars that don't break as often, but don't claim the others to be perfect.
12-09-2018, 03:58 AM
#29
The Kyosho magic is down to the roll distribution being set naturally to the front, one has to be extreme in the setup to dial more rearward roll distribution because the front wheel side driveshafts are angled in relation to the lower arm, which according to my calculations add around 0.3mm of sway bar. The rear end isn't angled so the roll stiffness is down to springs+sway bar. As always, the stiffest end is the first one to lose traction.
The rest of the setup depends on this fine balance, any attempt to make the driveshafts more straight is met with a balance change as I found out. Still, the mp9 is in the sweet spot setup wise and with a change in the stock setup by using the tki3 B plate and arms, the +2mm upper arm holder, H-S shock tower, the 2.5mm front sway bar and different pistons front and rear the mp9 is ready to tackle 10 more years.
So "need" is about the mp9 being too safe to drive, it can be more aggressive/faster with the changes I wrote above but for sure it still fast stock as Tebo showed at the Worlds.
The rest of the setup depends on this fine balance, any attempt to make the driveshafts more straight is met with a balance change as I found out. Still, the mp9 is in the sweet spot setup wise and with a change in the stock setup by using the tki3 B plate and arms, the +2mm upper arm holder, H-S shock tower, the 2.5mm front sway bar and different pistons front and rear the mp9 is ready to tackle 10 more years.
So "need" is about the mp9 being too safe to drive, it can be more aggressive/faster with the changes I wrote above but for sure it still fast stock as Tebo showed at the Worlds.
12-09-2018, 09:22 AM
#30
Tech Master
The Kyosho magic is down to the roll distribution being set naturally to the front, one has to be extreme in the setup to dial more rearward roll distribution because the front wheel side driveshafts are angled in relation to the lower arm, which according to my calculations add around 0.3mm of sway bar. The rear end isn't angled so the roll stiffness is down to springs+sway bar. As always, the stiffest end is the first one to lose traction.
The rest of the setup depends on this fine balance, any attempt to make the driveshafts more straight is met with a balance change as I found out. Still, the mp9 is in the sweet spot setup wise and with a change in the stock setup by using the tki3 B plate and arms, the +2mm upper arm holder, H-S shock tower, the 2.5mm front sway bar and different pistons front and rear the mp9 is ready to tackle 10 more years.
So "need" is about the mp9 being too safe to drive, it can be more aggressive/faster with the changes I wrote above but for sure it still fast stock as Tebo showed at the Worlds.
The rest of the setup depends on this fine balance, any attempt to make the driveshafts more straight is met with a balance change as I found out. Still, the mp9 is in the sweet spot setup wise and with a change in the stock setup by using the tki3 B plate and arms, the +2mm upper arm holder, H-S shock tower, the 2.5mm front sway bar and different pistons front and rear the mp9 is ready to tackle 10 more years.
So "need" is about the mp9 being too safe to drive, it can be more aggressive/faster with the changes I wrote above but for sure it still fast stock as Tebo showed at the Worlds.