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Old 08-20-2018, 04:17 AM
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Questions?? Keeping the clay packed (veg. oil? dustex? sugar?)

Hi,
I'm building a brand new outdoor clay track soon and was looking into methods of holding the clay together better.
In my area the clay we have packs well but even if it's concrete-like after packing during the race fine dust particles come off of the surface and even though the track is hard packed it seems "sandy" to drive and has rather low grip.

Do you have anything trusted that keeps the clay more moist?
  1. I've heard that vegetable oil is good as oil will not evaporate and will increase the natural oiliness of the clay which will prevent drying out.
    • is it safe for the environment?
    • should I mix it with the clay (with a rotary tiller) or spray oil onto a packed surface? - the first option seems better as it would create an uniform material.
  2. Dustex and similar products. Does it work well? What about tire-wear? Also: spray onto the surface or mix with the clay?
  3. Sugar - I'm not convinced to that. I don't want carpet-like traction and also am a bit affraid of it attracting bugs, birds, horses and other cookie-monsters

What is your experience guys? I will really apprectiate any advice.
What is the best for you to drive on, what requires the least amount of maintenance and re-applying, etc.

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Magnesium chloride works well with our local clay mix. Its what horse arenas use to keep dust down in areas where water will freeze in the winter. They also use it on the oilfield/ logging roads now as it doesnt eat the aluminum fuel and cargo tanks on the trucks.
look up magnesium flakes or small pellets, its also sold as eco friendly ice melter
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That's something I haven't heard about before - thanks.

Is it safe for the metal parts of the cars? I've heard that calcium chloride (which is also being used to keep the dirt together) causes corrosion. Isn't it a problem with magnesium chloride?
Also, did you mix it with the material or somehow covered only the surface with it?
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We havnt found it eats aluminum or is really corrosive at all, it can shrink leather shoes a bit and will dry your skin out as well.
It can be mixxed with water and sprayed or laid out in a layer of the track, water it and wait for it to disolve into the soil. It can also be tilled in but it would require a good packing after.
heavy rains can wash it away but a good application lasts us the season
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Hello HaulinBass,

Do You know the mixture ratio of Magnesium Chloride and Water that You use for spraying track surface??

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Magnesium chloride works well with our local clay mix. Its what horse arenas use to keep dust down in areas where water will freeze in the winter. They also use it on the oilfield/ logging roads now as it doesnt eat the aluminum fuel and cargo tanks on the trucks.
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I cant remember the exact ratio but i think it was close to 1 pound mag per 5 gallons of water for our dirt.
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Thanks HaulinBass!
One more question... Will it disolve in water if bought in form of flakes or did you find it in a form of powder?
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Yes the flakes should disolve with agitation
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Hello Haulin Bass,

Thank You for the information..

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I cant remember the exact ratio but i think it was close to 1 pound mag per 5 gallons of water for our dirt.
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Cheap white dishwashing liquid, has to be white.
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are you serious
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Yes I am, the chemical that makes it white is a retarder, just about any laundry soap in the the water will reduce the evaporation rate
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ahh, okay. sounds interesting. do you mix with water?
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ahh, okay. sounds interesting. do you mix with water?
yes mix into the water
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