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Old 06-23-2018, 01:07 PM
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planning to buy a new buggy in the next month or so.
I am an intermediate racer.
Race only no bashing.
I had a Rc8b3 and recently a losi 4.0
the Rc8b3 was decent the losi I could never hook the rear up on but outher wise was pretty good as well.
Whats the most neutral handling buggy out right now?
this is not a versus thing I'm looking for opinions on the handling charastics of diffrent buggy's.
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Mugen is always a good choice
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Kyosho. I used to run Associated, but years ago a friend bought an MP9 and let me drive it with the box setup and I was sold. Easy car to drive and the rear is very stable. I have trouble with cars that have little traction in the rear.
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Originally Posted by infrontofu View Post
planning to buy a new buggy in the next month or so.
I am an intermediate racer.
Race only no bashing.
I had a Rc8b3 and recently a losi 4.0
the Rc8b3 was decent the losi I could never hook the rear up on but outher wise was pretty good as well.
Whats the most neutral handling buggy out right now?
this is not a versus thing I'm looking for opinions on the handling charastics of diffrent buggy's.
Thanks
nobody will disagree that the kyosho car handles almost every track the best .... very minor setup changes

plus it can be blinged out and look like a million dollar car
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nobody will disagree that the kyosho car handles almost every track the best .... very minor setup changes

plus it can be blinged out and look like a million dollar car

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Right now I'm tore between the Kyosho and the hb d817
amain has an awsome deal on the a spec car right now.
But the more I read in the k car seems everyone is Frankenstein them with tki3 front end parts and such.
I run on a super hard pack super slick track no dust more like a glass surface.
The dirt was sealed with some kind of dirt glue. It's crazy slick.
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Originally Posted by infrontofu View Post
Right now I'm tore between the Kyosho and the hb d817
amain has an awsome deal on the a spec car right now.
But the more I read in the k car seems everyone is Frankenstein them with tki3 front end parts and such.
I run on a super hard pack super slick track no dust more like a glass surface.
The dirt was sealed with some kind of dirt glue. It's crazy slick.
look at what Tessman did to the field at the 16' nationals with the D815 then...that may be your choice as the track conditions were very similar to what you describe...
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Given track conditions any car can make the tires work,which is your main concern. The way each car works is what matters to a driver and then there's the intangibles like parts durability,price and so on...
​​​​​​Which brand has good support in your track? What engine do you use? I ask all that because some cars will always be more aggressive than others or lazier to drive or something else that makes you work harder and end up hating driving the car.

The safe bet is the mp9, don't be afraid of the tki3 front end parts they help the car a little and with the abundance of tki3 parts isn't an issue. Don't get the steering hubs which is the expensive part and the ones you don't need.

My advice is to try all cars you can and see for yourself.
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I runs vzb speeds or samuari 321 engines
tires I generally run what the outher fast guys run but have tried almost every tire out there on that track.
None of them seemed to work lol.
I tend to run impacts or panther dragons the most.
I know most any car can be made to work but I'm looking for the car that is most likely to keep the rear planted on power out of turns.
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I runs vzb speeds or samuari 321 engines
tires I generally run what the outher fast guys run but have tried almost every tire out there on that track.
None of them seemed to work lol.
I tend to run impacts or panther dragons the most.
I know most any car can be made to work but I'm looking for the car that is most likely to keep the rear planted on power out of turns.
None? What's your current ride?

Cars that have more understeer on power are the mp9, the hb if you run away from Tessman setups and maybe the xb8. All of them have more traction than wide pivot rear ends like the mugen. To me it's best to start with a car that has more grip out of corners than one that has less grip out of corners, as grip is easy to remove and grip exiting corners is a necessity.
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Was running a 4.0 with the flex tune chassis kit.
It's more of a rear drive car not what I need.
Just sold it so currently no car until I buy a new one.
Amain has the TKI4 spec a pre assembled kit for 609 right now
and the hb with the crf 3 port and pipe for little over 700.
With my store points and discount codes I can be in either for about 75/100$ less
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Both are good deals, the Hb has more tuning parts available like the Ackerman arms and the rear upright plates but you don't need them the car is good as is and can be tuned to your track conditions just like the mp9. I was thinking to myself that you had the tlr, the complaints match the car and it's shortcomings.
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What parts would I need to order with the k car to get the front end correct?
i know the tki3 b block
what is the rest I would need?
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What parts would I need to order with the k car to get the front end correct?
i know the tki3 b block
what is the rest I would need?
Tki3 arms,there's an updated version I'll get the number for you, nothing else needed.

https://www.amainhobbies.com/kyosho-front-lower-wc-suspension-arm-set-kyoif493/p511080

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the mp9 platform and its parts are all just geometry changes that will allow you to tune the car for different types of dirt and features of any given track . theres 2 different rear hub carrier offsets , 2 different lengths of front arms , 4 different caster angles each with 3 adjustments , adjustable front kickup and width to match front arms , you can change track width and leverage/shock load , change between 46,47,48 tooth spurs and 13-14 clutchbell gears , front upper trailing arm and the effects on camber gain ..... i mean basically you can tailor the car to how it works best for you .


the tki4 out of the box is fairly aggressive on the infield but could be a lil more aggressive in high speed sweeper turning ..... i would personally get a few things with new kit if i were to start over

tki4 10th anniversary edition
ifw410 rear hub carriers
if493 .... strong tki3 front arms
ifw474 17.5 alu front caster blocks
if440 tki3 front inner mount (b block)
ifw450 alu steering bellcrank arm
if419 tki3 steering knuckle
ifw426 alu radio tray stiffener / transponder mount
plus a bunch of spares .... lol

outdrives , axles , brake calipers , bearings , diff stuff .... etc.

the stuff listed above will let you be able to tailor the car in multiple different configurations finding what works best for you
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