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#782
Tech Adept
run a softer rear sway bar , run the rear hub on the closest hole to the axle and run less anti squat. Adams setup run too much anti squat , too hard of a rear sway bar and the hubs too high Makes the car a bit too tall happy.
#783
Can you give me link set up low or medium grip adam please?
#784
Tech Master
hello great pilots and admirers of MUGEN SEIKI !!! first time I write in the forum (by the way interesting and of much learning); I own a MBX7, MBX7T and soon the MBX8. I have been in the hobby for a short time compared to people and professionals. I have been a pilot since 2005 and the little I know I am ALWAYS learning! My big question (that is why I ask everyone) is the great controversy that exists with the book of adjustments (set up book) especially with the book of adjustments HUDY. since the small (not because it is small) book of MUGEN SEIKI RACING (web) is contradicted in certain criteria with the other books. and asked??? In the end it is not all geometry and physics when we adjust our cars, WHY ??? they are not all these UNIVERSAL books. Is advertising ??? AND WHO HAS THE TRUTH OF THESE REPORTS TO ADJUST CARTS ??? many. thanks to all. ANUNNAKI
F, eks:
On MBX6 i found the car to give more steering when you raised the upper front arm. On Xray XB 132- it gave you less steering. Ackerman mve forward on the Kyosho gives you a more agressive car, but on my old (think it was crono) it gave me a car that was easier to drive.
Use a setup book as a rule of thumb, but not as a fact-it depends on your car what happends when you adjust this or that. My best advice to you is that when you are on track,practicing- change one setting at a time and write down what happend. Suddenly, you have made your own setup book for YOUR car and skill level. We have a short seasson here in Norway and theese days i get to do very little driving. I often use a car for 2-3 seassons ( not one car but one brand f. eks MP9) and when i start the second seasson i have learned the car and usually have a car that works very goog almoast all the time.
Good luck.
#785
Tech Elite
iTrader: (1)
Hi, books are a greta tool for us, but it is also quite the oposite. When a manufactor makes a setup book, it is made to their caror filosophy. Yes, the laws of physicks is the same for all, but it depends on the geometry of the car you have the book for.
F, eks:
On MBX6 i found the car to give more steering when you raised the upper front arm. On Xray XB 132- it gave you less steering. Ackerman mve forward on the Kyosho gives you a more agressive car, but on my old (think it was crono) it gave me a car that was easier to drive.
Use a setup book as a rule of thumb, but not as a fact-it depends on your car what happends when you adjust this or that. My best advice to you is that when you are on track,practicing- change one setting at a time and write down what happend. Suddenly, you have made your own setup book for YOUR car and skill level. We have a short seasson here in Norway and theese days i get to do very little driving. I often use a car for 2-3 seassons ( not one car but one brand f. eks MP9) and when i start the second seasson i have learned the car and usually have a car that works very goog almoast all the time.
Good luck.
F, eks:
On MBX6 i found the car to give more steering when you raised the upper front arm. On Xray XB 132- it gave you less steering. Ackerman mve forward on the Kyosho gives you a more agressive car, but on my old (think it was crono) it gave me a car that was easier to drive.
Use a setup book as a rule of thumb, but not as a fact-it depends on your car what happends when you adjust this or that. My best advice to you is that when you are on track,practicing- change one setting at a time and write down what happend. Suddenly, you have made your own setup book for YOUR car and skill level. We have a short seasson here in Norway and theese days i get to do very little driving. I often use a car for 2-3 seassons ( not one car but one brand f. eks MP9) and when i start the second seasson i have learned the car and usually have a car that works very goog almoast all the time.
Good luck.
There you go, one can't make one single change and expect that it won't mess with anything else.
Edit*
On the same token, the rc8b3, the hb and pretty much everyone else has less bump steer than the mugen...
Last edited by 30Tooth; 10-16-2018 at 09:05 AM.
#786
Can I get some info on the rear pills and rear toe in adjustment. Im putting together a 7 series GT and purchased the 8 series arms and 8 series suspension mounts.
The parts #s for the suspension arm MOUNTS are different from 7 and 8, does anyone know what those differences are in the mounts?
The 8 series mounts and arms are bolted up to the 7 series diff cases with no issues.
Im looking to find out what the rear toe setting are and how the pills work ?
Car is going to be used for straight speed on street, so im looking for the least amount of rear toe in.
I currently have the rear pills in so pill dots are high and dots closest to the inside. Does anyone know what that toe setting is currently at?
The manual shows them stock with dots in center, is that 2.75 degrees of rear toe?
Also noticed theres no difference between arm mounts MBX and GT, I would have thought the GT would have had more toe adjustments for high bite, that said im not sure i understand
If i can get less toe in.
I did see that M2C arm mount has more adjustments to get less rear toe. Is that the only way to get less toe is to buy there brace. Any info would
be appreciated. I can post pics of my setup if needed. TY
The parts #s for the suspension arm MOUNTS are different from 7 and 8, does anyone know what those differences are in the mounts?
The 8 series mounts and arms are bolted up to the 7 series diff cases with no issues.
Im looking to find out what the rear toe setting are and how the pills work ?
Car is going to be used for straight speed on street, so im looking for the least amount of rear toe in.
I currently have the rear pills in so pill dots are high and dots closest to the inside. Does anyone know what that toe setting is currently at?
The manual shows them stock with dots in center, is that 2.75 degrees of rear toe?
Also noticed theres no difference between arm mounts MBX and GT, I would have thought the GT would have had more toe adjustments for high bite, that said im not sure i understand
If i can get less toe in.
I did see that M2C arm mount has more adjustments to get less rear toe. Is that the only way to get less toe is to buy there brace. Any info would
be appreciated. I can post pics of my setup if needed. TY
#787
Heres some pics
#789
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
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#793
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Bolt holes are .5mm lower on the X8 C-Block, and it's clearanced differently for the input bearings/diff case. Using it on the X7 will cause your RF (C) pills to be .5mm higher than a stock block, which will give you more antisquat.
Just something to consider when you're tuning.
Bolt holes are .5mm lower on the X8 C-Block, and it's clearanced differently for the input bearings/diff case. Using it on the X7 will cause your RF (C) pills to be .5mm higher than a stock block, which will give you more antisquat.
Just something to consider when you're tuning.
#794
Hello everyone, I am trying to buy some replacement dogbone pins for my (non-mugen) buggy. I see that there are two parts numbers/pin lengths - 3x12.8mm and 3x13.8m - on amain it shows compatibility with almost all Mugen vehicles.Did not find antying in the manuals either although it does list both part numers. Does anyone know which ones are used for what? i.e front vs rear UJs? Would appreciate the help. Thank you.
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0271/p4436
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0270/p4435
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0271/p4436
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0270/p4435
#795
Hello everyone, I am trying to buy some replacement dogbone pins for my (non-mugen) buggy. I see that there are two parts numbers/pin lengths - 3x12.8mm and 3x13.8m - on amain it shows compatibility with almost all Mugen vehicles.Did not find antying in the manuals either although it does list both part numers. Does anyone know which ones are used for what? i.e front vs rear UJs? Would appreciate the help. Thank you.
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0271/p4436
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0270/p4435
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0271/p4436
https://www.amainhobbies.com/mugen-s...mugc0270/p4435