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E2025 - MBX8 Worlds Edition - April, 2019

MUGE0240: Wide Offset Wheel Hubs 1mm 2pcs; The 1mm wide offset wheel hubs will increase stability and cornering.
MUGE2146: Inline Front Uprights; The E2146 inline front uprights have smoother steering compared to the stock E2147 trailing front uprights and work great in high traction conditions. E2146 uprights can be used with both CVA and universal style driveshafts.
MUGE2168: -3mm Front Upright Arm; The -3mm front upright arm improves the initial steering response and make the vehicle more stable through the middle and exit of the corner.. The new upright arms also reduce bump steer and make the vehicle more predictable in bumpy conditions.
MUGE2235: 46T Spur Gear; The 46 tooth HTD spur gear provides a great balance of acceleration and top-end speed.
MUGE2252: 12T Pinion Gear
MUGE2254: 42T Conical Gear; The optional 12T bevel gear when used with the 42T conical gear will change the final drive ratio and increase acceleration.
MUGE2260: Center Joint Cup.
MUGE2261: Center Front Dog Bone (84.5mm)
MUGE2262: Center Rear Dog Bone (115mm); The front and rear-center dogbones for the MBX8 reduce friction from the stock universal driveshafts. Less friction will give the vehicle a more efficient drivetrain, increase acceleration, and provide more traction. The dog bones are lightweight, durable, and will increase traction.
MUGE2428: Rear Wing Stay +15mm; The +15mm wing mount has more adjustment and will help increase mid corner rotation and be more stable in high speed conditions.


E2021 - MBX8 1/8 Nitro Buggy Kit

Chassis:
The MBX8 chassis features a new design that improves traction and stability in bumpy conditions and on the exit of corners. The steering post are also keyed into the MBX8 chassis for easier maintenance.

Differential & drive train:
High Traction Differentials are included in the MBX8. The Mugen Seiki HTD provides increased acceleration, longer runtime, and more consistent handling. The HTD's also increase stability, traction, and improve handling in bumpy conditions. The HTD has a new larger volume diff cup to increase consistency during long main events. This makes it easier to time rhythm sections, better in bumpy and low grip conditions, helps to increase traction, and increases fuel mileage.

The new gearbox makes allows you to remove and service the differentials without detaching the suspension arm mounts. Easy access to the front and rear differential.

New straight cut 13T bevel gear & 44T conical gear. The new straight cut bevel and conical gears increase acceleration, runtime, and efficiency. A free and efficient drive train will also increase speeds while cornering.

Light weight one-piece wing mount:
The new lightweight one-piece wing mount lower the center of gravity. The position of the wing and wing mount is optimized to improve the performance of vehicle. The height of the wing mount is adjustable. This allows you to control the down force on the rear of the vehicle by simply raising or lowering the mount on the shock tower.

Light weight high down-force wing:
The new IFMAR legal wing is lightweight and provides amazing down force and cornering. The underside of the wing uses a new design to reduced weight and creates additional down-force.

Suspension:
New suspension mounts. The FF/FR/RF/RR are new for the MBX8.
The front and rear lower arms use a new impact resistant material for increased durability. The new arms are box-shaped and include arm stiffeners to reduce flex and increase durability. Adjusting the hardness of the lower suspension arms is now possible. This allows you to fine tune the steering and traction from track to track. CFRP plates will be released as an option part.

Center differential mount & plate:
The center differential mounts use a stiffer material and has a new top plate to reduce chassis flex and increases clutch bell, spur gear, and clutch bearing life. The reduced chassis flex also provides more consistent handling in all conditions. The top plate design also makes it easier to adjust the brakes and easier maintenance.

Enclosed Battery box and updated carbon fiber radio plate:
The MBX8 still uses a flat 2S Lipo or Life battery, but the receiver battery is now enclosed in a molded battery box. The battery box allows for quick and easy access to the battery. The molded box also helps protect the battery from hard impacts. The battery box is mounted to an updated carbon fiber radio plate.

Other new parts and upgrades:
Body, Clamping Servo Saver Nut, F/R Shock Towers, Front bumper, Front center and rear center universal joint.

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Old 12-10-2017, 12:14 AM
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- same drive train
- new, significantly stronger arms (compatible w mbx7r)
- new wing and wing mount
- new towers
- new chassis

Car looks very similar to the 7r but a lot of details have changed.

No split Center diff mount.
glad they will make new arms. i use xray xb8 for now...
a lower wing would be great.
that's what i did on mine : 2 aluminium L shape plates to lower the lower.
not adjustable anymore though... ( body is a associated rc8be , i like the oldschool style )



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Originally Posted by mlax View Post
Drake said:

- same drive train
- new, significantly stronger arms (compatible w mbx7r)
- new wing and wing mount
- new towers
- new chassis

Car looks very similar to the 7r but a lot of details have changed.

No split Center diff mount.
where drake give you this information?
i know the differential are new chassis and shock
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where drake give you this information?
i know the differential are new chassis and shock
Shocks are new as well, correct
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This thread is total BS. Let's just wait and see what Mugen releases.
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Shocks are new as well, correct
Faster access to front and rear diff, diffs are new as well.
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This thread is total BS. Let's just wait and see what Mugen releases.
"OK". please compare my points tomorrow to the release and write that again.
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All the Mugen AE haters cried fowl when AE’s new buggy platform mirrored the Mugen. Fast forward three years and the AE car has all the improvements we been asking for. Now I believe Mugen will pretty much be updating to the standard set by AE. Only speculating the 8 will have HT diffs, cvd on the corners, uni in center, four shoe clutch, lighter wing mount, already released new wing, trailing front uprights for cvd that were just released, new diff cases, 1.2 and 1.3 eight hole pistons and bleeder screws in shock caps.
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All the Mugen AE haters cried fowl when AE’s new buggy platform mirrored the Mugen. Fast forward three years and the AE car has all the improvements we been asking for. Now I believe Mugen will pretty much be updating to the standard set by AE. Only speculating the 8 will have HT diffs, cvd on the corners, uni in center, four shoe clutch, lighter wing mount, already released new wing, trailing front uprights for cvd that were just released, new diff cases, 1.2 and 1.3 eight hole pistons and bleeder screws in shock caps.
Ultimately they all copied Kyosho so it doesn't matter
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Is kyosho pillow ball?
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Originally Posted by E1 Diablo View Post
This thread is total BS. Let's just wait and see what Mugen releases.
I wouldn't worry, this thread might get deleted when Adam Drake starts the new MBX8 thread.

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Is kyosho pillow ball?
It's like someone stole your car, painted in another colour and then the police caught them. Then during court the judge would dismiss your claims because the car isn't painted like yours, even if the VIN matches.

The mbx5 had suspension geometry closer to the MP7.5 which was good but now I wouldn't say that the 7 is a MP9 copy, mugen improved the design all by themselves.
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This thread is total BS. Let's just wait and see what Mugen releases.
If you do not want to discuss do not read
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Here we go:

The NEW MBX8 has a lot to offer! More durable, more acceleration, more runtime, easier to work on, and lightweight. The new Mugen Seiki MBX8 buggy has been put to the tested and develop by the best drivers in the world. Soon you’ll be able to get your hands on the MBX8 Nitro Buggy. Coming late January 2018!
Part # E2021MBX8 Nitro Buggy Kit.

Here’s a look at some of the new features for the Mugen Seiki MBX8.

Chassis:
- The MBX8 chassis features a new design that improves traction and stability in bumpy conditions and on the exit of corners. The steering post are also keyed into the MBX8 chassis for easier maintenance.

Differential and drivetrain:
- High Traction Differentials are included in the MBX8. The Mugen Seiki HTD provides increased acceleration, longer runtime, and more consistent handling. The HTD’s also increase stability, traction and improve handling in bumpy conditions. The HTD has a new larger volume diff cup to increase consistency during long main events. This makes it easier to time rhythm sections, better in bumpy and low grip conditions, helps to increase traction, and increases fuel mileage.
- New straight cut 13T bevel gear and 44T conical gear.
The new straight cut bevel and conical gears increase acceleration, runtime, and efficiency. A free and efficient drivetrain will also increase speeds while cornering.

Lightweight one-piece wing mount.
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- Lightweight high down-force wing.
The new IFMAR legal wing is lightweight and provides amazing down force and corning. The underside of the wing uses a new design to reduced weight and creates additional down-force.
















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enclosed battery box, yippee... no more Fastrace or the RCstar clone...

I like the smooth arms as well!

Nice wing mount. Is the receiver box further forward too?
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Quick access diffs too!
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I like it. I know a few were expecting some.revolutionary redesign, hahahah...

Just like the MP9, there comes a point when you are confident in your product, and just refine it!

Just no Cab forward body (did nothing for my lap times).

I think perhaps my son will get the MBX8 first.

now just get Jörn on the Team!
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