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Old 02-18-2013, 04:25 PM
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Will 2 flux torque 2200kv motors be faster than 1 1717?

Would the 2028 just be plain overkill?
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:20 PM
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Yes, if geared properly, and yes.
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I have one 1717 and I think it would be overkill on 6s without getting hot.

I think the biggest setback would be the esc.
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Just curious what's the setup for? I have a friend who is gonna run his flux on 8s this summer to try and hit 79+mph. He's using a marine esc capable of handling 12s and i'm not sure of the motor or lipos hes using.
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Curious that's all, I've got two flux XLs sittin in the corner and wondered about making a twin setup.
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Your not going to get faster with dual 2200 combos, you will just have twice the torque.. You need 1 motor with going higher cells. Or gear to the moon. But gearing to the moon you run the chance of overheating. You could run the 2 escs to 1 motor 4s pack through each resulting in 8s but the 2200 will need replaced with 1 of the other 2 motors you spoke of. I would just sell what you have and play it safe and get a CC monster XL combo and go as many cells as you want.
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2 esc's 1 motor ? Why not run dual motor dual esc geared high 4s or 6s ?
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Originally Posted by malik View Post
Your not going to get faster with dual 2200 combos, you will just have twice the torque.. You need 1 motor with going higher cells. Or gear to the moon. But gearing to the moon you run the chance of overheating. You could run the 2 escs to 1 motor 4s pack through each resulting in 8s but the 2200 will need replaced with 1 of the other 2 motors you spoke of. I would just sell what you have and play it safe and get a CC monster XL combo and go as many cells as you want.
A pair of 1515 (2200kv) motors will be a more powerful than a single 1717 with all on 6s. I'm not a fan of dual setups due to increased weight and complexity but just looking at power it'll be more powerful. Obviously with more power and torque the twin setup will be quicker or could be geared higher and have a faster top speed without overheating. If you have the power to pull the gearing you won't overheat, simple as that.

I think you're a little misguided about using 2 esc's and one motor. If you were to do such a thing and it worked, the principle would be same as when using 2 batteries to feed an esc. The voltage would not be doubled since the esc's would be wired in parellel to each other at the motor. There is the potential for doubling the amount of amps that could be delivered to the motor though. It would be impossible to wire the esc's to the motor in series to double the voltage.

Now as far as 2 esc's wired to one motor actually working, I thinks its unlikely. Sensorless esc's use startup algorithims to start the motor spinning and then use emf pulses coming back from the motor to determine motor position and which coil in the motor to fire next. Its likely the esc's would confuse each other in actual operation. It may be possible to run 2 sensored esc's on one motor though since the sensor determines the motor's position.

Edit: The 2028 would be over the top overkill, drivetrain doesn't stand a chance. Dual 1515's on 6s could be a cheap way (cheap for you since you have them) to experience some nutty power, but its probably about equal to a 1717 on 8s. Not that the 1717 on 6s isn't bad ass enough.

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I run a 1717 in my flux xl on 6s. It's nuts. I don't see why you would want a mt to go faster than that. Even with extreme punch control and a gentle throttle curve, the truck backflips as soon as it taps into the power.
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I run my High Voltage Lightning on 6s and a Tekin RX8 w/ a 1350kv motor and it's stupid fast. We are working on shoe horning a 1717 in there.

The 1515 size motors have about 3000watts of capability. The 1717 is around 4500 watts. So half again bigger, half again heavier too.
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Overkill is overkill. Its more about taming the overkill so it doesnt exceed the mechanical limitations of what you put it in.

You can run two ESCs on one motor or two motors on one ESC, just not possible.
You can run dual of each and simply split the RX throttle lead with a Y, just make sure that you are only using one of the internal BECs by removing the + lead from the other.
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Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
Overkill is overkill. Its more about taming the overkill so it doesnt exceed the mechanical limitations of what you put it in.

You can run two ESCs on one motor or two motors on one ESC, just not possible.
You can run dual of each and simply split the RX throttle lead with a Y, just make sure that you are only using one of the internal BECs by removing the + lead from the other.
Come on man, a savage xl with a 1717 backflipping at speed is just flat out badass I dont care who you are.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:35 AM
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My center diff XL flux can still do 40mph backflips. Yes it is an amazing sight. I've got some pretty cool pics of the truck flippin I have to find. Ill share when I do.

As of now I'm just using the two 2200kv motors, I have the Y jumper for the esc's and will be removing one red wire from one esc so only one powers it lol. The issue now is mounting the motors nice and low and still having room for four 3s battery's. looks like my gearing will be 25/46t with a net speed of 116 or 118mph
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Well i think i might be leaning towards the 2028 on 8s, my twin setup tvps will have to be redesigned.

Will the 2028 push a savage to over 100mph?







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