Slipper clutch problem?
I bought a used savage, when I got the truck it was stuck in reverse, the diffs were in backwards so i fixed that. But I do have something that I can't figure out.. When the truck starts (or even during starting) the tires turn. I have to throw the truck to get it going because if I set it down it dies because the tires are turning. Could this be the slipper clutch or do I have something screwed up in the tranny? Anybody had this type of problem ? Thx! :weird: :weird:
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I would take the engine out and inspect the clutch shoes and springs inside the clutchbell, sounds like they are broken to me.
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I agree with Delta, sounds like a clutch problem.
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Hold your finger on the clutch bell and turn the motor over, if the clutch bell turns it will need to be re-built.
PS. You cant put savage diffs in backwards. They only go in the casing one way! :) Good Luck. |
yea your springs are broken just change them and you will be good to go :nod:
ps. rookie 4.6 if you have the truck apart and get confused you can put the front diff case in the rear and rear case in the front witch is what happened ;) |
Worst case scenario - your clutch bell bearings have seized, your springs are weak/broken and your clutch shoes need replacing.
Best case scenario - your clutch, bearings and springs are perfect, but you have a fast tickover!! :lol: |
Yea I just flipped the shaft and diffs around in the casing (front and back) and it fixed it. Are you sure they can only go one way? I didnt take the diff gear off the shaft I just flipped it all around and put the casing back together.
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Originally Posted by BradT041
Yea I just flipped the shaft and diffs around in the casing (front and back) and it fixed it. Are you sure they can only go one way? I didnt take the diff gear off the shaft I just flipped it all around and put the casing back together.
:weird: What you describe has nothing to do with the tyres spinning when the car is at tickover. Suffice to say, that if the truck appears fixed now because of it, it maybe purely co-incidence. The truck running in reverse is bizarre, but as you can see from the picture, there is no way you can put the diffs in to the gearboxes in reverse. |
Originally Posted by Robert.Hull
ps. rookie 4.6 if you have the truck apart and get confused you can put the front diff case in the rear and rear case in the front witch is what happened ;)
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Thanks Haratio!!!! ;)
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Originally Posted by Rookie 4.6
Thanks Haratio!!!! ;)
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One more question, did the savage SS come stock with aluminum diff cases? Because they are on mine and the picture you had did not look like the diff cases on my savage... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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yes, the savage x ss comes with alloy diffs.... :nod:
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Originally Posted by BradT041
One more question, did the savage SS come stock with aluminum diff cases? Because they are on mine and the picture you had did not look like the diff cases on my savage... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
It's quite possible that your diffs are aftermarket items, so don't get overly confused. Either way, no matter what version you have, they can't go in backwards - no way, no how! :lol: |
Yes I have the SS. And I most certainly did flip the diffs around, and it is no longer going in reverse. I did not take the pinion gear off, I just flipped the pinion gear and shaft around and put the case back together and it's going the right way! :sneaky:
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No you didn't. Don't you understand!!! :weird: Its impossible to put them in backwards.
Savage X SS or Savage SS??? |
Originally Posted by BradT041
Yes I have the SS. And I most certainly did flip the diffs around, and it is no longer going in reverse.
I did not take the pinion gear off, I just flipped the pinion gear and shaft around and put the case back together and it's going the right way! :sneaky: What you are saying simply doesn't make sense to me at all. If it was closer to April 1st, I'd swear it was just a wind-up! :lol: Show us a picture of your diffs in the wrong way around! Until then, don't try and convince people that it's feasible with stock SS parts - because it isn't. Period! :sneaky: |
According to the other thread he started, he actually owns the 4.6 SS, not the SS.
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Originally Posted by Horatio
Show us a picture of your diffs in the wrong way around! Until then, don't try and convince people that it's feasible with stock SS parts - because it isn't.
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what if this guy had alloy diff cases which are machined without the pattern of the stock?and you can put the diffs in the wrong way???
but since hes sayingf he has stock 4.6ss diff cases yes it is impossible |
Originally Posted by BradT041
Yes it is the 4.6 SS - I will post pics tomorrow, and horatio, dude, dont get your panties in a wad, do you think I would waste time coming into a forum to post something like this just to make it up? LoL I have much better things to do in life :mad: :mad:
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Originally Posted by BradT041
Yes it is the 4.6 SS - I will post pics tomorrow, and horatio, dude, dont get your panties in a wad, do you think I would waste time coming into a forum to post something like this just to make it up? LoL I have much better things to do in life :mad: :mad:
The problem of your wheels spinning all the time are totally unrelated to the diffs or slipper clutch, so the fact that you're still trying to convince us that the diffs fit in backwards on your truck is confusing to say the least. :weird: So, excuse me if certain members, myself included, are beginning to detect an element of 'wind up' with both your threads. If you explain to us in plain English how reversing the diffs is possible, I'd certainly offer my humble apologies for doubting you - provided you had pics to prove it!! ;) Ditto for the input shaft. Until then, don't get mad - the guys here have been trying to help you, in case you've forgotten. And there's still no mention of what state your clutch shoes are in, or the clutch springs etc. Or whether your tickover is too high or not. The advice given has been largely unacknowledged. I think TBH, most people would forgive us if we were getting a little frustrated. And FYI, the 4.6SS a different model to the SS, though in either case, the diffs still only go in one way...... :sneaky: |
I found 1 spring broken on the slipper clutch, replaced it and the wheels stopped turning at idle.... Ran good for a while, now it is doing the same thing, so I tore it apart and nothing is wrong with the slip clutch, tranny is making a weird noise when i turn the tires. Taking it to a local hobby shop to a buddy of mine who knows savages better than he knows himself and tell him to fix it before I dispose of it! :flaming: :flaming:
I do appreciate your guys help and have learned alot from browsing here. :D |
Put mugen 1.0 clutch springs on it. This will make the clutch engage later which means the engine has to rev higher before the clutch kicks in.. :)
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Originally Posted by BradT041
I found 1 spring broken on the slipper clutch,
....tranny is making a weird noise when i turn the tires. Taking it to a local hobby shop to a buddy of mine who knows savages better than he knows himself and tell him to fix it before I dispose of it! :flaming: :flaming: I do appreciate your guys help and have learned alot from browsing here. :D The Savage is unique. When correctly set-up, it's both durable and reliable. Don't let these teething problems give you the wrong impression. The previous owner obviously gave the truck a sound thrashing before he sold it to you. RCTech is a rich source of info for just about any type of model car and the help is always there when you need it. :) |
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