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Jasonb777 10-19-2018 07:48 AM

Red or blue thread locker?
 
Hey guys; I recently purchased the Cen colossus 1/7 scale truck, and this morning I took a few minutes to enjoy running it before work...well, after 10 minutes of running it, the set screw on the motor pinion gear came loose; and this is not the first time; it happened last week and I put blue thread locker on the set screw, but it has indeed come loose again! Should I put red locker o the set screw, or not? Our local hobby shop owner said that they don't even stock red because of not being able to free up the screw for maintenance after it is applied; what do you guys think I should do?

cnk 10-19-2018 08:54 AM

I would avoid using red unless you never intend to change pinion gears again. I would make sure the grub screw and pinion are clean, then apply blue thread lock and tighten. Then let it sit overnight to set. If you're just assembling and then taking it out right away, that's your issue. The loctite needs time to set. If you use red, the only way to get red to loosen up is to apply a lot of heat and you would risk damaging things.

JC3 10-19-2018 09:11 AM

A trick that I've been using that has worked exceptionally well for me is, prior to installation, to put blue thread lock on screws and let them sit overnight. The thread lock sets up and then when installing the screws the next day they feel slightly tighter going in. By only allowing the thread lock to coat one surface the locking effect isn't as strong but feels just right. I've used this trick on my AE chassis screws and have yet to have one come loose. I have heard of guys using red to lock the screws on their spool drive cups, but I never use red myself as it seems like overkill and as previously mentioned above is a royal pain to get off.

Jasonb777 10-19-2018 10:26 AM

Thanks guys fr both of your responses; the thread locker I was using was supposed to be a quick drying locker; I did rush out and run it afterwards; I will try applying the locker and letting it sit as mentioned; thanks again!

werner sline 10-19-2018 11:56 AM

i never use red loctite : it's really hard to get off the screws with red loctite ! my CEN for exemple has some blue loctite and it never failed. a night of "drying" is indeed needed !

https://i.imgur.com/SVLinkF.jpg

wingracer 10-19-2018 01:06 PM

Pinions usually don't come loose even without any Loctite so I would consider getting a new, quality pinion. As others have said, don't use red on anything you might ever want to loosen again.

werner sline 10-19-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by wingracer (Post 15319937)
Pinions usually don't come loose even without any Loctite so I would consider getting a new, quality pinion. As others have said, don't use red on anything you might ever want to loosen again.

i never managed to run longer than 10 sec without loctite on my motor pinion !!

Jasonb777 10-19-2018 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by wingracer (Post 15319937)
Pinions usually don't come loose even without any Loctite so I would consider getting a new, quality pinion. As others have said, don't use red on anything you might ever want to loosen again.

The motor pinion o this Cen appears to be really good quality; plus, I did program the punch to level 7, so I am sure that the constant torque from wheelie's is tough on the drive train; considering this thing is heavy mass to move so quickly.

JC3 10-19-2018 03:56 PM

I also use the method above, of putting thread locker on to dry for a day prior to installation, on my pinion set screws. Again, never had one come loose. I'm running touring cars so the torque many not be comparable though.

timjs 10-20-2018 04:26 AM

A trick with set screws that lock against a flat on a shaft is to grind down the tip of the set screw to make it flatter. A lot of them have a tapered tip and it puts all the pressure on a small section of the center of the shaft and it allows it to work back and forth over time.

fordfreak95 10-20-2018 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by werner sline (Post 15319911)
i never use red loctite : it's really hard to get off the screws with red loctite ! my CEN for exemple has some blue loctite and it never failed. a night of "drying" is indeed needed !

https://i.imgur.com/SVLinkF.jpg

Thats a really good shot man! That is screen saver material.

werner sline 10-20-2018 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by fordfreak95 (Post 15320264)
Thats a really good shot man! That is screen saver material.

thanks, it's a screenshot of a video. as this thread was about a CEN, posted it ! lol

https://i.imgur.com/wlEhqU4.jpg

Jasonb777 10-20-2018 03:45 PM

Man you are crazy!!! That thing looks like it is 35 ft in the air! Did you break anything on that jump? Or better yet, to keep the thread in the context, did your blue thread locker hold up? ;)

werner sline 10-21-2018 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jasonb777 (Post 15320428)
Man you are crazy!!! That thing looks like it is 35 ft in the air! Did you break anything on that jump? Or better yet, to keep the thread in the context, did your blue thread locker hold up? ;)

haha thanks man, didn't you see my CEN videos ? of course i had some crash, there a gringy video only about crashes ! no thread lock failure though !!

Jasonb777 10-21-2018 05:05 PM

Yeah I saw your vid's; your definitely push these things to there limit for durability; keep up the good work!


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