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smirkracing 03-08-2018 07:55 PM

Solid Axle MT - locked front diff pros & cons?
 
Hi All,

I have a mod clod that I run on 4s with dual Castle 4600 motors. It has a huge amount of power, and even though I've dialed it back to minimize wheelies, the front gets very light under acceleration. As a result, the front end almost always diffs out when I hit the throttle - one wheels goes crazy and balloons while the other does very little work.

So - one thing that might help with this issue is that locking the front diff. What are some pros and cons of doing so? Any thoughts?


Thanks!

werner sline 03-08-2018 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by smirkracing (Post 15177991)
Hi All,

I have a mod clod that I run on 4s with dual Castle 4600 motors. It has a huge amount of power, and even though I've dialed it back to minimize wheelies, the front gets very light under acceleration. As a result, the front end almost always diffs out when I hit the throttle - one wheels goes crazy and balloons while the other does very little work.
So - one thing that might help with this issue is that locking the front diff. What are some pros and cons of doing so? Any thoughts?
Thanks!

i don't run a clod buster but you might know my home made monster truck : i noticed too that the front diff needs heavy oil. i run closed diffs so i could put 100 000 oil in the front diff. i even have a center diff where i put 300 000 oil, that helps to control the power.
i wouldn't go for a locked front diffs ( but maybe you got no choice because clod don't run sealed diff ) ; in my opinion, diffs can help to handle hits and crashes. it probably helps for freestyle too

smirkracing 03-09-2018 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by werner sline (Post 15178026)
i don't run a clod buster but you might know my home made monster truck : i noticed too that the front diff needs heavy oil. i run closed diffs so i could put 100 000 oil in the front diff. i even have a center diff where i put 300 000 oil, that helps to control the power.
i wouldn't go for a locked front diffs ( but maybe you got no choice because clod don't run sealed diff ) ; in my opinion, diffs can help to handle hits and crashes. it probably helps for freestyle too

Of course I know your monster truck — it is absolutely amazing! Your videos are fantastic as well.

As you noted the clod diffs are open so my choices are limited. There is a ball diff for clods from Integy but I don’t buy their stuff.

So my choices are open or closed....

werner sline 03-09-2018 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by smirkracing (Post 15178091)
Of course I know your monster truck — it is absolutely amazing! Your videos are fantastic as well.

As you noted the clod diffs are open so my choices are limited. There is a ball diff for clods from Integy but I don’t buy their stuff.

So my choices are open or closed....

thanks for the nice comment, do you race and freestyle ?

EDIT : dumb question of mine, you can't race on 4s !

so how do you bash ? any videos ?

i would got for locked diff !

smirkracing 03-09-2018 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by werner sline (Post 15178104)
thanks for the nice comment, do you race and freestyle ?

EDIT : dumb question of mine, you can't race on 4s !

so how do you bash ? any videos ?

i would got for locked diff !

Werner, I don't have any videos, but I'll probably take some as the weather improves. But even when I do, they won't be quite as awesome as yours.

Overdriven 03-10-2018 04:00 PM

when going around corners the left and right wheels need to turn at different speeds. The inside wheel follows a tighter arc travelling less distance so it doesn’t need to spin as fast as the outside. Lock a front or rear diff and the tires will use some of their traction fighting each other as they try to rotate at different speeds. Lock a diff up front and understeer is usually increased. Lock a rear diff and initial turn in almost always suffers, any other characteristics depends on how much traction the inside tire loses.

Rattfink 03-10-2018 09:21 PM

One thing we do in rc racing is to adjust the wheelbase to balance the car better.
This usually happens in small increments 3 mm at a time. The clod buster probably not a lot of adjustment going on there but maybe a few ounces of lead up front?

CPFTTC4 03-12-2018 03:21 PM

In my experiences with my STRC IZilla Wraith framed truck, I would stay away from a locked front diff for racing. I kept my rear locked and got a stock SMT10 front diff with some 100k Losi diff oil.


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