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Old 02-03-2014, 06:17 PM
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Hi Dear manila RC players,

There is an improvement for the MGR and JPR rules just a little.
Please you may check below Red color point.

next MGR date: Feb.15
Starting time: 1PM up to 3PM. Race finish target time 7PM.
Entree fee: 400PHP. additional entree fee is 50PHP each.
Each class top 1st winner will have MGR medal after race.
Minimum entry for each class will be 3~5 players.(organizers call)
If we can't have enough player to have one class, We would offer you to join the "unrestricted class".

Qualifying: A fastest lap record style. 2 times of 15 minutes open track.
Attention please!! All categories car will run together in this 2 times of 15 minutes qualifying.

We can save a lot of time by this method. Please you may get used to this.
A slower car will have priority to keep a racing line during qualifying. But, blocking faster car is not allowed for every one during Qualifying.

Other things are here below,


13.5T boosted kings class
3 times of 5 minutes races.

chassis: open for 1/10 size(190mm) 4 independent suspension touring car. FF car can join.
tires: open for rubber tires.
body: open for 190mm touring car body.
motor: open for 13.5T motors.
battery: open for (2s) 7.4V lipo, sub-C 7.2V, Life 6.6V.
weight limit: minimum 1400g (when ready to run)
ESC: open


No special rules(handicap) for this 13.5T boosted kings.
(Due to this class car has so much tight balance of the speed and temperature managing. Any hand-cap might give a damage for your car. )


17.5T non boosted Meisters class
3 times of 8 minutes races.

chassis: open for 1/10 size (190mm) 4 independent suspension touring car. FF car can join.
tires: open for rubber tires.
body: open for 190mm touring car body.
FF car must use Front wheel drive car bodies.
motor: open for 17.5T motors. motor timing need to set on "zero" position.
If the motor has fix advance timing, FDR will be different.
battery: open for (2s) 7.4V lipo, sub-C 7.2V, Life 6.6V.
weight limit: minimum 1400g (when ready to run). FF car has no weight limit.
FDR: Minimum FDR. is 3.80 (If motor has any fix advance timing 4.00)
For FF cars Minimum FDR. is 3.50
ESC: open with no boosted and turbo timing.

About a special rules for "17.5T non booted Meisters".
Each heat top finisher will have Bigger minimum FDR for next heat.
1st. step of FDR handicap is minimum FDR 4.00 (FF:3.70)
2nd. step of FDR handicap is minimum FDR 4.20 (FF:3.90)
3rd. step of FDR handicap is minimum FDR 4.40 (FF:4.10)

This handicap is going maximum 3 times ( till FDR 4.40) for the heat winner.
Please prepare your smaller pinion gears by your-self.

About when Heat winner can remove the handicap FDR?
If the person had lower then 4th(including 4th) on his final result in the race day,


Over 1500g tub chassis can be no handicap.
Due to no advantages for that kind of car, also due to harder to change gear and harder to check gear.


We may count numbers of "handicap winnings" in 2014. There is an other medal for the person who most earned handicap winning in this 2014!
handicap step one winner ◊1 point.
handicap step two winner ◊2 points.
handicap step three winner ◊3 points.


This person can take off one time of handicap FDR for the next race event.
※ during race day, the person has no chance to remove it anymore.
※ FDR handicap is going to put for only top finisher of each heat.
※ If the person finished race over all result by 1 or 2 or 3 with the FDR handicap,
He(she) must carry this handicap for the next race event again as his starting FDR.



Open wheel formula car challenge class
3 times of 8 minutes races.

chassis: open for 1/10 size F1 and Indy. open wheel car only.
tires: open for rubber tires.
body: open for 1/10 open wheel bodies.
motor: 540-J, 21.5T blush-less motors can be use. trinity 21.5T can't use. blush-less motor must be set "zero" timing.
ESC: any blush ESC and any blush-less ESC without boosted and turbo timing.
battery: open for (2s) 7.4V lipo, sub-C 7.2V, Life 6.6V.
weight limit: minimum 1050g
FDR: for 540J open, for Brushless 21.5T is minimum FDR 3.20

No special rules for this Open wheel formula car challenge class
Due to the collaboration with Manila F1 club race.


"Passed winners" must use narrow (Max 190mm).

About the "passed winners".
Manila F1 club racer open class winner of 2012 and 2013, and, The mighty gripper cup F1 class winner of 2012 and 2013,
Also tamiya asia cup A main racers of 2012 and 2013.
(Or can play without getting winner medal)


Tub-chassis 540 masters class
3 times of 8 minutes races.

chassis: any 1/10 size of tub-shassis touring car. 4WD, FWD, RWD.
tires: open for rubber tires.
body: only tamiya, HPI, and kyosho bodies can be use. proto etc racing bodies cant be use.
motor: 540-J ※ Max RPM 18500(7.2V), Max consumed electric 2.5A(7.2V). both will be check by motor master.
ESC: open
battery: open for (2s) 7.4V lipo, sub-C 7.2V, Life 6.6V.
weight limit: minimum 1550g
FDR: Minimum FDR is 6.0

about special rules for this tub-chassis masters class.
Each heat winner must put 40g additional weight base on the minimum weight limit.
This handicap is going maximum 2 times (80g) for heat winner.

About when Heat winner can remove the handicap weight?
If the person had lower then 4th(including 4th) on his final result in the race day,
This person can take off one time of handicap weight(40g) for the next race event.
※ during race day, the person has no chance to remove it anymore.
※ weight handicap is going to put for only top finisher of each heat.
※ If the person finished race over all result by 1 or 2 or 3 with the weight handicap,
He(she) must carry this handicap for the next race event again.


New?! Unrestricted car challenge class!!
2 or 3 times of lap-count qualifying. and 3 times of races.
We donít have M-chassis class this year independently. M-chassis please join in this Unrestricted class2.

Unrestricted class 1:
3times of 5 minutes race
faster more then brush-less 17.5T up to 2.5T, brushed 23T up to 6T, and nitro cars.

Unrestricted class 2:
3times of 8 minutes race
slower than bush-less non turbo 17.5T to any, brushed 25T up to any, silver cans, speed tune. torque tune, formula tune, lightly tune.

chassis: unrestricted
tires: unrestricted
body: unrestricted
motor: unrestricted
ESC: unrestricted
Battery: unrestricted
weight: unrestricted
FDR: unrestricted

Special rules for this unrestricted car challenge class.
2nd heat and 3rd heat will be reverse grid from result of previous heat.

About this class
whatever your RC car can run this class!


These Rules will have improved during in this season yet.
If you have any question, Please feel free to ask me, Ralph, and Mikey.

See you then Lets enjoy RC in manila!

taka
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cocojam
Thank you Taka for the nice race last saturday. Your commentary on Manito's consistent driving is surprising considering that it was his first race after being sidelined for several months. I will let him know this to motivate him to race more often. Thanks and see you on Feb 15.
It was -0.284s manito's "best lap vs. Ave lap" actually. But it was still great.
And Rains's "best lap vs. Ave lap" was great too. Both two of them just need to have more good car to be faster that I can tell.

By the way, I started to make a personal record for each player of 2014. We can see who is how nice by the personal datas, End of this year.

Each race has medal for top finisher.(after each race)
An other medal for most winner with handicaps.(end of year)
3 times consecutive winner medal.(at same class)(when it happen)
First time winner medal.(after race)
Average qualifying grid winner medal.(end of 2014)
Average race result winner medal.(end of 2014)

I am trying you guys to have not enough sleeping this year!
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:28 PM
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wow! thanks Taka! looking forward on what we find out with the statistics gathered for the year!
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mighty nokkey
It was -0.284s manito's "best lap vs. Ave lap" actually. But it was still great.
And Rains's "best lap vs. Ave lap" was great too. Both two of them just need to have more good car to be faster that I can tell.

By the way, I started to make a personal record for each player of 2014. We can see who is how nice by the personal datas, End of this year.

Each race has medal for top finisher.(after each race)
An other medal for most winner with handicaps.(end of year)
3 times consecutive winner medal.(at same class)(when it happen)
First time winner medal.(after race)
Average qualifying grid winner medal.(end of 2014)
Average race result winner medal.(end of 2014)

I am trying you guys to have not enough sleeping this year!
Thanks Taka! This will be a big help for us in tracking our performance.
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:08 AM
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lot of work there taka-san, and i'm interested to see those stats as well!

- Kim
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Minami
lot of work there taka-san, and i'm interested to see those stats as well!

- Kim
Hi kim!
This is not hard work If many players.
But this will be hard work if not much players.

Please join MGR and JPR. And please invite your friends to have RC hobby in jp raceway together!

Let me enjoy this.

taka
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:03 AM
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WAZZUP!! WAZZUP!! it's been a long long while
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Old 02-06-2014, 04:35 PM
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wazap RONCH!!!
Laro ka na ulit!
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:17 PM
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nice to know the stats taka ... i think i drove well last race nga and my car handled good but did not win... wtf! haha
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:33 PM
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Wow that's great Taka, so we can track our performance. Will you also use TAC data or just MGR data? Anyways, great job.

Vin

Rains, mag S1 ka na lang, hehe.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:42 PM
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What rubber tyres work on track? Im keen on running 13.5t boosted
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by danjoy25
What rubber tyres work on track? Im keen on running 13.5t boosted
Given our local temperature and asphalt track, we generally run Ride RE36 remounts and they last pretty long too giving competitive times even up to after 3 or 4 race days. Sorex 36 with medium inserts and stiff rims work pretty well too but have stopped using them to keep costs for the racers down.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:37 PM
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Ayos. I have I few ride 36. Is the d3.5 the motor of choice for 13.5t? Also what's the common esc that everyone uses para I can get some setup tips and reload turbo software as all my esc are now blinky.
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Most people who podium run the Orca VX or VXX ESC, and either an Orca RX-2 or TX motor :-) a handful of guys run Dualsky, Orion and Hobbywing ESCs, some have Reedy, Orion motors but not too popular at the track. The D3.5 should be pretty good since our track is well sized and has a long straight.

If you need tires, Ride RE36's are available at JP Raceway. Try to drop by tomorrow, there's a TAC race, but 17.5 blinky and 13.5 boosted will be run too. I'll be there, come approach me if you have any questions :-)

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so far, no one is using the 3.5... most are using ORCA RX and TX motors, Dualsky, and Speed Passion v3.0. For ESCs its ORCA, Dualsky, HobbyWing 2.1 and v3
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