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Old 03-21-2009, 07:10 PM
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I would like to warn people here in rctech about an untoward incident regarding a transaction between me and an alleged seller in rctech. Here it goes (mahabang istorya ito ha) pero a good read.

I posted an ad in the in the buy and sell tread, regarding a used savage F4.6 engine. Posted my number (now removed) and asked them to PM me their offers. There were some offers but it was the wrong engine model. Then got a text saying that he have the same engine for sale. I asked him about the condition and his reply was ( I’ll quote and copy paste all his text since all was saved and documented)
“Gud n gud to sir hnd lost bgay ko nalang ng 2taw hnd laspag to sir”.
Hey that’s cheap…. So I asked him if he have a land line so I can call. his reply was
“Wala me lan lane sir daxbrandy user ko sa rctech” (I later learned that he was not the real "daxbrandy" when I verified thru PM the real Daxbrandy).

I asked him where we can meet up and told him I can get it that same day or Thursday since coding ako ng Wednesday.

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“Layo m pala sa tarlac p ako sir im jondi [email protected]$ gusto nyo p lbc ko nalang”. But I have to add 200 for the shipping. That afternoon I called his number and we had a talk.

Asked him if it was .28 F4.6 engine and said it was .25 that came with his savage 25.(It turned out that he was offering me the wrong part since my engine is a different model) Notwithstanding, I decided na sige kunin ko nalang for my friend kasi nag hahanap din sya ng parts ng .25.

That night he sent me a text “Bukas p lbc ko adres m”. I told him I’ll see since coding ako the following day I would try. And asked him his bank account no. reply: “Tagal p bka pwd bukas narin ned kulang bukas sir kaya ko bebenta” (Apparently, he was eager to push thru with the sale) then he sent an account no. “Ito sa BDO xxxxx50598 J. M. DELEON. SA HIPAG KO YAN SIR KASI BRTDAY NG ANAK KO BUKAS BI2LE KO NG CEL KULANG SIR PAMBILE KO KAYA KO BINENTA ENGINE”.( the account was valid, but its in Bulacan. Which is unusual since he told me he was from Tarlac.) I sent him a message, (Ok. I'll let u know kung n p dala ko n. Around 10am to 3pm. Can u reply s pm ko sayo s rctech. Thanks)That same night I sent a PM to the real daxbrandy and asked him his account no. and asked him some info.

The following morning I sent him again a text (Gud am bro. Can u pls reply s private message ko sayo s rctech. Tapos let me know so i can check. Just want to make sure you are the same person. Hope you understand. Thanks) the reply was “Cge thk sir tex nyo nalang po ako sir God bls samahan ko nalang ng dalawang bgong glo plug thk” (The answer was unresponsive to my request for verification thru RCtech).

I still insisted that he reply to pm PM. The answer I got was “Oky ito nga hulog ko maya maya”, Bos maya p ako maka on lane kasi my work p papa hulog ko engine sa isang kasamahan ko sa work kasi sa fild cya sa labas tapos mga bgo mag 10 send ko truking # daxbrandy ko sa rc tech bos hnd ko sirain name ko sa halagang 2taw sa rctech. “K thk po pascnya n brtday lang kid ko umasa kasi cel god bls u more ingat” “Sir p k tex nalang po ako para mabile kuna gif sa kids ko”.

Later that day he sent me a tracking no. “Tarlac brnch trucking # 191034362997”. so I went to my suking LBC branch and asked them to check it for me. They told me that the no. was an international tracking no. Sent him a txt and said the no. was not valid and if he can send the name of the sender. “Sir saglit lang po my mga truck kasing dumating mag baba ng dilever send ko ulit maya maya pag sagot sa tex”,
OMAR PASCUAL PO SIR”,

“Ito sir sumagot n 181024362996 my mali pala cyang send ng una burahin m yan tama dto n cya dala risibo”.I learned that the new tracking no. was again invalid. It came from Bulacan from a certain (L.Benedicto, No. XXX Mabini st. Sabang Baliuag Bulacan). but the item (PSP) was sent March 10 to Bacolod Negros Occidental ( March 18 nun binigay nya yng tracking no. All the inconsistencies started to add up).

Any way to cut the story short I have informed the BDO Bank in Bulacan. Fortunately, he inadvertedly informed me that the BDO branch in Bulacan was just in front of their residence or office. “Bos account nalang daw sabi ng hipag ko sa bulacan.tapat kasi nila bdo.” In the text he said hipag nya. And later he said pinsan nya daw yun.(Another inconsistent statement).

To the Moderators, sorry mahaba I’m sure this lesson will benefit the Sellers and Buyers of the RC community.

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Under the law, Electronic Documents (SMS, Email, Fax etc) are now admissible in court so long as the source can be verified (Electronically signed). So wait a while before erasing SMS, PM or Emails after a transaction..Although 2nd hand goods does not have any implied warranties under the law, if the seller expressly so states (good as new, no defects etc..)it will be considered as such, and if the contrary appears, then it will be considered as a breach of the warranty stated, hence the buyer is entitled to damages and such other reliefs..(Assuming you file a case).

Pls post your experience/reactions regarding internet scammers (im sure it will be interesting and informative) thanks

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Old 03-21-2009, 07:27 PM
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tsk tsk rc nlng nanloloko pa.kung cno ka man tamaan ka sana ng kidlat!!!!
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:31 PM
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toinks...ano bayan, loko nmn ung mokong na iun...dapat tinutuhog yan ng buhay...tsk tsk tsk, sa nag babalak manloko dito sa mcp...wag na kaung magtuloy, kasi pagnahuli kau...pcncyahan nalang
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at ung mga na scam na dati...pwede po ba kaung mag post din dito? para po atleast malaman ng iba kung pano ang mga diskarte na ginagawa nila para maka pang loko ng tao
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that was a long read! so i just want to know, did you fall for it or didn't you? curious lang ako boss! it really is saddening to see that there are people doing these things especially here. if i had my way, putol kamay at paa dapat sa kanila!
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sa hirap ng buhay ngayun kahit anu gagawin para mapanloko, kung pasa load nga may sindikato how much more yung mga computer literate.. tsk, tsk tsk,

ingat na lang lahat sa mga walang pusong MANLOLOKO!
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Bro its a good thing to post your experience regarding scammers. It gave us a fair warning and heads up on how to watch out for scammers and how not to fall victim to these parasites. Its not enough to rely on trader ratings alone. Good thing you used the PM function. From now on i'll do the same.
My advice,verify authenticity of the person you're dealing with ,by all means possible i.e.: calls thru his established number in previous transactions ,pm replies ,seller name same in bank acct number, meet up or pick up if at all possible. When in doubt...DONT!
Don't worry, may balik yan sa mga scammers. Matindi malas at paghihirap sa buhay kapalit nyan.
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Originally Posted by politpot View Post
at ung mga na scam na dati...pwede po ba kaung mag post din dito? para po atleast malaman ng iba kung pano ang mga diskarte na ginagawa nila para maka pang loko ng tao
politpot, meron pa ba ibang paraan? Sus Sige nga paki post para maging aware lahat sa mga Modus Opirandi nila. Just want to teach this guy a lesson
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Alvin galing ng ginawa mo! Sa dami ng mga newbie sa hobby and Rctech, malaking tulong ito for them. At least now they know how to check and verify the seller before sending any money. Sa liit ng RC community sa pinas malamang madaling ma trace kung sino yan. Baka may nakakakilala sa cell number nya na minsan naring nakausap nyang lokong yan eh pwede nila ipost dito yung totoong identity nyan para mabalatan ng buhay at buhusan ng Nitro!
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hirap talaga pag malayo ang nagbebenta mas maganda talaga puntahan yun nagbebenta para sure .....
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this is a lesson to us all. verify all would-be sellers or buyers first before sending the items or depositing any money to them. unless otherwise, you know the person personally or have dealt with him before.

@ganja, may i suggest that you put the guy's telephone/mobile numbers here para may reference kami at di kami maloko ng taong ito.

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http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/publicati.../10/100803.php

Rules of Procedure can be found here..

http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/


Its fast, (Decision within the day after the hearing)..and no need to get a lawyer, you can represent yourself.


I hope this will deter would be scammers in the future... mas madali na masampolan ang mga yan.
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Just to add to this,

Last week someone called me regarding my post that says I'm looking for a Wheely King RTR. He told me that he has a savage 25 for sale and eventually I told him that I am not looking for a Savage. He then quickly insisted that he has one and he'll email me pics of the item. I asked him what his real name and rctech name. He said his name is ------- but cannot provide me with an Rctech name. I eventually gave him my bulk mail address and I told him to just email me pics of the Wheely King. The next day I asked him if he has sent me the pics already and he replied that he has no internet access at home and will mail me the pics when he gets back to his work place. The night after, Dax posted about the HPI engine and to this day he has not emailed me nor has contacted me back. His cell phone has also ever since been out of reach.

Now, I'm not saying this is the same person or someone is really trying to pull a scam on me. I just want to warn everyone here that as small as the RC community here in the Philippines, you still have to be careful dealing with anyone specially with deals that require shipping the items and sending the money thru bank accounts etc.

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..............dapat dyan sa lahat ng manloloko kapag nahuli binabalatan ng buhay para magtanda................

kaya ingat na lang po sa mga buyer.............
paki post na lang po lahat ng mga details ng mga manloloko na yan present or previous details para makilala sila ng husto dito sa internet
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Originally Posted by daxbrandy View Post
this is a lesson to us all. verify all would-be sellers or buyers first before sending the items or depositing any money to them. unless otherwise, you know the person personally or have dealt with him before.

@ganja, may i suggest that you put the guy's telephone/mobile numbers here para may reference kami at di kami maloko ng taong ito.

Hi daxbrandy,
Sorry nadamay yng name mo dito. He used this no. x9104281619, but the number can't be reached anymore. paki check nalang if it will show up in your phone book. I'm sure he and other scammer will read this thread, since dito sila nag hahanap ng victims. Mag tago na kayo.

Edward531,
Ayos yang post mo. Less hassle na sa mga long court hearings. Mas madali na pala habulin yng mga tao nanloloko. Thanks for the info.

I got some PM's with regards to their experience, cross checking phone numbers and if they are the same person. Hope they post it here so we'll be aware of the modus opirandi. and every body should read the post of Edward. Now there is an easy way to go after would be scammers.

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