RC at Dataran Merdeka(JB)
08-01-2002, 04:15 AM
#31
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Thread Starter
go there and shout out ur freq!!!
mine's 26.895 FM Mhz...any1 using???...
4 mi,no problem so far...
mine's 26.895 FM Mhz...any1 using???...
4 mi,no problem so far...
08-01-2002, 12:45 PM
#32
it's de qd worrysome..... not our own boyz......
however... most of them uses 27mghz..... so pls bcareful.... wouldn't wan 2 harm any1.....
well .... u may check by way of "on" ur RX 1st 2 check on any glitches...... else... shout de 2nd way.... well of coz... u may ask any of us 1st.....
so imataq, would u b showing up dis sat????
we're definitely gonna burn some rubber
however... most of them uses 27mghz..... so pls bcareful.... wouldn't wan 2 harm any1.....
well .... u may check by way of "on" ur RX 1st 2 check on any glitches...... else... shout de 2nd way.... well of coz... u may ask any of us 1st.....
so imataq, would u b showing up dis sat????
we're definitely gonna burn some rubber
08-01-2002, 09:19 PM
#33
will try my best to be there ...
see u
see u
08-04-2002, 01:18 AM
#34
hm .. too bad i made my way there and the place is crowded with pple attending the concert .......
luckily my dad has not left the place or else i will sure get a scolding for asking him to turn back
do u guys play any other time ?
if yes where?
luckily my dad has not left the place or else i will sure get a scolding for asking him to turn back
do u guys play any other time ?
if yes where?
08-04-2002, 09:43 AM
#35
imataq: very sorry abt yesterday.... din expect they have concerts.... however we were there this evening.... n had some good run....
since de finale taising race is nex weekend (11/08) .... de training session for the week would be called off.....
would u wanna join de race??? it's de finale of de season..... let us know....
thanks.
since de finale taising race is nex weekend (11/08) .... de training session for the week would be called off.....
would u wanna join de race??? it's de finale of de season..... let us know....
thanks.
08-04-2002, 11:36 PM
#36
nah ..... dun a have a car for the race.....
++ dun want to run my 01.......
++ dun want to run my 01.......
08-05-2002, 12:39 AM
#37
well we've tl01 run in c main.... so what u worry???
08-05-2002, 05:45 AM
#38
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Thread Starter
the final race is on the 11/8...hmmm,...
08-05-2002, 09:42 AM
#39
ijnek: tagging along??? well dis is de finale of de season..... hope 2 c lotsa prices 2 be given away....
hopefully, they'll start our own series.... local.... in jb..... once de track is up....
not sure de status of de track but should be coming up....
hopefully, they'll start our own series.... local.... in jb..... once de track is up....
not sure de status of de track but should be coming up....
08-05-2002, 10:10 AM
#40
hehe my tlo1 might not even qualify!
u forgot how lousy i am......... i resigned to fate on being a lousy RC racer
++ batts in saddle mode so cant use o1
u forgot how lousy i am......... i resigned to fate on being a lousy RC racer
++ batts in saddle mode so cant use o1
08-05-2002, 07:47 PM
#41
well if ur a fate believer.... then do think much u can accomplish.... however.... races did make me learn alot..... improvements i can c myself into.... better characteristic understandings of my own setup..... u should be doing better than relying on fate... 
ijnek: watcha think?
ijnek: watcha think?
08-06-2002, 01:01 AM
#42
yep ... i agree....
hehehe i should start praticing ....
i just dun like my old car ....
bias maybe ...
cant blame me tho ... had a nightmare with that car -
maybe coz i was a beginer back then ... but it was still a nightmare !!!!
cool good 4 u jo ... btw do u belive that roll centre and the reactive castor has a lot to do with setups ...?
i have been learning a lot about those b4 i stopped rc a while back ...
most people tell me its useless....
just learn how to setup by trail and error bla bla bla ....
ever read the website on rc handling ???
http://www.rcingreece.com/RC%20Car%20Handling%20101/
hehehe i should start praticing ....
i just dun like my old car ....
bias maybe ...
cant blame me tho ... had a nightmare with that car -
maybe coz i was a beginer back then ... but it was still a nightmare !!!!
cool good 4 u jo ... btw do u belive that roll centre and the reactive castor has a lot to do with setups ...?
i have been learning a lot about those b4 i stopped rc a while back ...
most people tell me its useless....
just learn how to setup by trail and error bla bla bla ....
ever read the website on rc handling ???http://www.rcingreece.com/RC%20Car%20Handling%20101/
08-06-2002, 01:46 AM
#43
think u ought 2 upgrade a new car larr..... at least a 04s or 04ss kah.... it suits u better....
de gravity centre of de car is important..... wat's "castor"???
u'll have perfect setup once u understand characteristic of de car n track requirements..... u'll have lotsa fun doing dat..... for once i did it during last race in s'pore..... i think there's still lots of room 4 improvements.... watcha think??
de gravity centre of de car is important..... wat's "castor"???
u'll have perfect setup once u understand characteristic of de car n track requirements..... u'll have lotsa fun doing dat..... for once i did it during last race in s'pore..... i think there's still lots of room 4 improvements.... watcha think??
Originally posted by imataquito
yep ... i agree....
i have been learning a lot about those b4 i stopped rc a while back ...
most people tell me its useless....
just learn how to setup by trail and error bla bla bla ....
ever read the website on rc handling ???
http://www.rcingreece.com/RC%20Car%20Handling%20101/
yep ... i agree....
i have been learning a lot about those b4 i stopped rc a while back ...
most people tell me its useless....
just learn how to setup by trail and error bla bla bla ....
ever read the website on rc handling ???http://www.rcingreece.com/RC%20Car%20Handling%20101/
08-06-2002, 02:25 AM
#44
hehe i got it wrong its should be camber ......
sorry
castor is actually the angle of tilt "of the HUB" for the tires to automaticaly strightens up when u move foward it also gives additional grip during a turn ( middle and exit )as it affects camber angles when its turned ....which therefore affects the throw of the car when its moving in speed ... ...
remember kickup is diffrent .... from castor ....
but the kickup effects castor ... kickup is when the A arms is pointed upwords and not horizontal to the chasis when viewed from the side ...
kickup affects the weight and load of the car under braking and during a turn ....( too long to explain with all psysics in it ... some i dun even understand yet...) hm... i am sure u remember sin cos and tan
the simple teory explanation is that the amount of weight placed on on a 2 degree tilted arms is different compared to being placed at 0/180 degrees coz its the combination of the y and x asis ....
the more castor u have the more mildly ur car turns in ... ( understeer then suddenly halfway tru the turn the front suddenly gets grip and the car turns QUICKER ( sharper) ... if addjusted properly to match camber settings it can be useful ....
and the less castor u have the car will turn in more aggeresively then mildly in the middle and on the exit ....
the amount of "throw" can be controlled by trottle so what i am explaning based on a very liner trottle ( no acceleration or deseleration )
camber .... i think u know rite ....
yes theres a lot of room for improvement .......
i understand the effects etc etc but just cant put together the pieces so it would work 4 me and my car ......
maybe coz i never practice ...
Reactive camber is that when the suspension compresses during a turn the ture will gain neg camber thus giving u more grip ...
but theres a drawback .... on bumpy tracks like JJ the car will be hard to control ... coz the tire will never have an even contact patch therefore bouncing aorund ....
i tested and tested and found out that for bumpy tracks reactive camber is useless.... ( see all the crashes i have in JJ when i first buy the kawada???) was testing diff setups everytime i am there ... LOL
to have a liner camber movement or no reactive camber is best for JJ or JJ like tracks....
to give u reactive camber u will ahve to put the upper link angled downwords to the unside ( hub side higher and lower shock tower side ) which also means lowering ur Roll centre lowered which again gives u more roll ...
which "sometimes '( car dependent )also means u can use harder and stiffer suspension and yet get good grip .... ( more weight transfered = more roll )
my humble 0.002 cents as i am still testing testing and testing ...
if u need any diagnostic on the car setup ... ask in the electrict forum thread tittle "faster coner speed like a pro"
they might help .....
or u can ask me ....
but i am defenately not as good as some pple out there
willing to try and help as well as learn ......
no o4 ss or o4s .......... hehe i want a 2nd hand o4 pro or o4r .....
but also have to depend on budget .. not easy to save money .... )
aiming 4 motor 1st ..... maybe by the end of the year ???
sorry castor is actually the angle of tilt "of the HUB" for the tires to automaticaly strightens up when u move foward it also gives additional grip during a turn ( middle and exit )as it affects camber angles when its turned ....which therefore affects the throw of the car when its moving in speed ... ...
remember kickup is diffrent .... from castor ....
but the kickup effects castor ... kickup is when the A arms is pointed upwords and not horizontal to the chasis when viewed from the side ...
kickup affects the weight and load of the car under braking and during a turn ....( too long to explain with all psysics in it ... some i dun even understand yet
...) hm... i am sure u remember sin cos and tan the simple teory explanation is that the amount of weight placed on on a 2 degree tilted arms is different compared to being placed at 0/180 degrees coz its the combination of the y and x asis ....
the more castor u have the more mildly ur car turns in ... ( understeer then suddenly halfway tru the turn the front suddenly gets grip and the car turns QUICKER ( sharper) ... if addjusted properly to match camber settings it can be useful ....
and the less castor u have the car will turn in more aggeresively then mildly in the middle and on the exit ....
the amount of "throw" can be controlled by trottle so what i am explaning based on a very liner trottle ( no acceleration or deseleration )
camber .... i think u know rite ....
yes theres a lot of room for improvement .......
i understand the effects etc etc but just cant put together the pieces so it would work 4 me and my car ......
maybe coz i never practice ...
Reactive camber is that when the suspension compresses during a turn the ture will gain neg camber thus giving u more grip ...
but theres a drawback .... on bumpy tracks like JJ the car will be hard to control ... coz the tire will never have an even contact patch therefore bouncing aorund ....
i tested and tested and found out that for bumpy tracks reactive camber is useless.... ( see all the crashes i have in JJ when i first buy the kawada???) was testing diff setups everytime i am there ... LOL
to have a liner camber movement or no reactive camber is best for JJ or JJ like tracks....
to give u reactive camber u will ahve to put the upper link angled downwords to the unside ( hub side higher and lower shock tower side ) which also means lowering ur Roll centre lowered which again gives u more roll ...
which "sometimes '( car dependent )also means u can use harder and stiffer suspension and yet get good grip .... ( more weight transfered = more roll )
my humble 0.002 cents as i am still testing testing and testing ...
if u need any diagnostic on the car setup ... ask in the electrict forum thread tittle "faster coner speed like a pro"
they might help .....
or u can ask me ....
but i am defenately not as good as some pple out there
willing to try and help as well as learn ......
no o4 ss or o4s .......... hehe i want a 2nd hand o4 pro or o4r .....
but also have to depend on budget ..
not easy to save money .... )aiming 4 motor 1st ..... maybe by the end of the year ???
08-06-2002, 02:30 AM
#45
forgot to add
roll centre and Centre of gravity is diffrent
higher roll centre less roll
lower more roll
more roll= more traction or grip / more weight trasnfer
higher roll cantre has less roll because teory has it that if the roll centre is higher than the centre gravity of the car the car will NOT roll as the weights on each side will "fight' each other during a turn ....... not sure if this is possible but never achived it yet ...
read the site i gave u earlier.... almost everything is there
roll centre and Centre of gravity is diffrent
higher roll centre less roll
lower more roll
more roll= more traction or grip / more weight trasnfer
higher roll cantre has less roll because teory has it that if the roll centre is higher than the centre gravity of the car the car will NOT roll as the weights on each side will "fight' each other during a turn ....... not sure if this is possible but never achived it yet ...
read the site i gave u earlier.... almost everything is there