Malaysia National Championship (MNC) EP Round 1 - 11-July-2010
06-02-2010, 10:46 PM
#19
Saya ingin mengemukakan satu cadangan. Ini adalah cadangan personal saya (bukan cadangan RCAC yang mana saya adalah AJK).
Apa kata untuk MNC 2010 ni diadakan dua kategori untuk Stock class.
ProStock (11.5T - sbb ramai yang dah ada 11.5T motor ni) dan Stock (17.5T - sbb ada beberapa race organisers dah mula guna 17.5T motor contohnya TAC untuk F1 dan ORCA BL race untuk TC). Untuk "Stock" tak payah lah guna perkataan "Novice" kemungkinan ada juga drivers yang bukan novice nak masuk kategori ni.
Untuk ProStock, biarkan mereka guna semua features ESC generasi baru (timing, boost etc etc).
Untuk Stock, penggunaan features ESC generasi baru ini tidak dibenarkan.
Cadangan saya ini hanyalah bertujuan untuk membangunkan dan menyemarakkan lagi perlumbaan TC yang nampaknye makin dah kelam sejak kebelakangan ini. Penyertaan dalam perlumbaan pun macam dah berkurangan. Ada yang kata masalah kos......dan ada yang kata dah tak best sbb semua pro racers dah main stock, orang2 baru takda chance naik podium.
Jika diperhatikan juga perlumbaan2 yang melibatkan motor yang lebih slow (e.g. SSGP, TAC etc), penyertaan agak hebat, ramai pelumba2 RC yang baru datang bertanding dan semua bersoronok sambil ber-RC. ITu yag kita mahukan juga untuk MNC.
Apa pendapat kawan-kawan?
Memang ada pros and cons nya 2 kategori ni. Jadi saya serahkan pada pihak RCAC untuk membuat kata putus.
Apa kata untuk MNC 2010 ni diadakan dua kategori untuk Stock class.
ProStock (11.5T - sbb ramai yang dah ada 11.5T motor ni) dan Stock (17.5T - sbb ada beberapa race organisers dah mula guna 17.5T motor contohnya TAC untuk F1 dan ORCA BL race untuk TC). Untuk "Stock" tak payah lah guna perkataan "Novice" kemungkinan ada juga drivers yang bukan novice nak masuk kategori ni.
Untuk ProStock, biarkan mereka guna semua features ESC generasi baru (timing, boost etc etc).
Untuk Stock, penggunaan features ESC generasi baru ini tidak dibenarkan.
Cadangan saya ini hanyalah bertujuan untuk membangunkan dan menyemarakkan lagi perlumbaan TC yang nampaknye makin dah kelam sejak kebelakangan ini. Penyertaan dalam perlumbaan pun macam dah berkurangan. Ada yang kata masalah kos......dan ada yang kata dah tak best sbb semua pro racers dah main stock, orang2 baru takda chance naik podium.
Jika diperhatikan juga perlumbaan2 yang melibatkan motor yang lebih slow (e.g. SSGP, TAC etc), penyertaan agak hebat, ramai pelumba2 RC yang baru datang bertanding dan semua bersoronok sambil ber-RC. ITu yag kita mahukan juga untuk MNC.
Apa pendapat kawan-kawan?
Memang ada pros and cons nya 2 kategori ni. Jadi saya serahkan pada pihak RCAC untuk membuat kata putus.
06-03-2010, 12:09 AM
#21
06-03-2010, 03:26 AM
#22
i sbgai pendatang baru dlm hobby ni setuju pndpt bro shahrin.......kalo semua new comers ley naik podium...tu 1 of motivation to all new comers, atleast diorg dpt menimba ilmu race.......kalo bersaing dengan pro driver.....mmg susah driver baru ni nak naik podium...... i harap organizer ley pertimbangkn cdgn tersebut........A++ to bro shahrin..
06-03-2010, 04:16 AM
#23
Saya ingin mengemukakan satu cadangan. Ini adalah cadangan personal saya (bukan cadangan RCAC yang mana saya adalah AJK).
Apa kata untuk MNC 2010 ni diadakan dua kategori untuk Stock class.
ProStock (11.5T - sbb ramai yang dah ada 11.5T motor ni) dan Stock (17.5T - sbb ada beberapa race organisers dah mula guna 17.5T motor contohnya TAC untuk F1 dan ORCA BL race untuk TC). Untuk "Stock" tak payah lah guna perkataan "Novice" kemungkinan ada juga drivers yang bukan novice nak masuk kategori ni.
Untuk ProStock, biarkan mereka guna semua features ESC generasi baru (timing, boost etc etc).
Untuk Stock, penggunaan features ESC generasi baru ini tidak dibenarkan.
Cadangan saya ini hanyalah bertujuan untuk membangunkan dan menyemarakkan lagi perlumbaan TC yang nampaknye makin dah kelam sejak kebelakangan ini. Penyertaan dalam perlumbaan pun macam dah berkurangan. Ada yang kata masalah kos......dan ada yang kata dah tak best sbb semua pro racers dah main stock, orang2 baru takda chance naik podium.
Jika diperhatikan juga perlumbaan2 yang melibatkan motor yang lebih slow (e.g. SSGP, TAC etc), penyertaan agak hebat, ramai pelumba2 RC yang baru datang bertanding dan semua bersoronok sambil ber-RC. ITu yag kita mahukan juga untuk MNC.
Apa pendapat kawan-kawan?
Memang ada pros and cons nya 2 kategori ni. Jadi saya serahkan pada pihak RCAC untuk membuat kata putus.
Apa kata untuk MNC 2010 ni diadakan dua kategori untuk Stock class.
ProStock (11.5T - sbb ramai yang dah ada 11.5T motor ni) dan Stock (17.5T - sbb ada beberapa race organisers dah mula guna 17.5T motor contohnya TAC untuk F1 dan ORCA BL race untuk TC). Untuk "Stock" tak payah lah guna perkataan "Novice" kemungkinan ada juga drivers yang bukan novice nak masuk kategori ni.
Untuk ProStock, biarkan mereka guna semua features ESC generasi baru (timing, boost etc etc).
Untuk Stock, penggunaan features ESC generasi baru ini tidak dibenarkan.
Cadangan saya ini hanyalah bertujuan untuk membangunkan dan menyemarakkan lagi perlumbaan TC yang nampaknye makin dah kelam sejak kebelakangan ini. Penyertaan dalam perlumbaan pun macam dah berkurangan. Ada yang kata masalah kos......dan ada yang kata dah tak best sbb semua pro racers dah main stock, orang2 baru takda chance naik podium.
Jika diperhatikan juga perlumbaan2 yang melibatkan motor yang lebih slow (e.g. SSGP, TAC etc), penyertaan agak hebat, ramai pelumba2 RC yang baru datang bertanding dan semua bersoronok sambil ber-RC. ITu yag kita mahukan juga untuk MNC.
Apa pendapat kawan-kawan?
Memang ada pros and cons nya 2 kategori ni. Jadi saya serahkan pada pihak RCAC untuk membuat kata putus.
Betul..betul.. betul... slow & steady.. Bebudak yg baru belajar macam saya ni harus di beri peluang utk ber-compet
. Cetogeri slow(Super stok) sangat lah bersesuaian. Bila dah handal baru boleh compet nagai oatai-otaiMemandangkan 11.5T BL sekarang ni dah macam 5.5T... eloklah cetogeri 17T BL kerrrr.. 21.5T diperkenalkan, 48T brushed pon canteekkk.... cadangan ajerr...
06-03-2010, 09:59 AM
#24
Tech Initiate
Saya ingin mengemukakan satu cadangan. Ini adalah cadangan personal saya (bukan cadangan RCAC yang mana saya adalah AJK).
Apa kata untuk MNC 2010 ni diadakan dua kategori untuk Stock class.
ProStock (11.5T - sbb ramai yang dah ada 11.5T motor ni) dan Stock (17.5T - sbb ada beberapa race organisers dah mula guna 17.5T motor contohnya TAC untuk F1 dan ORCA BL race untuk TC). Untuk "Stock" tak payah lah guna perkataan "Novice" kemungkinan ada juga drivers yang bukan novice nak masuk kategori ni.
Untuk ProStock, biarkan mereka guna semua features ESC generasi baru (timing, boost etc etc).
Untuk Stock, penggunaan features ESC generasi baru ini tidak dibenarkan.
Cadangan saya ini hanyalah bertujuan untuk membangunkan dan menyemarakkan lagi perlumbaan TC yang nampaknye makin dah kelam sejak kebelakangan ini. Penyertaan dalam perlumbaan pun macam dah berkurangan. Ada yang kata masalah kos......dan ada yang kata dah tak best sbb semua pro racers dah main stock, orang2 baru takda chance naik podium.
Jika diperhatikan juga perlumbaan2 yang melibatkan motor yang lebih slow (e.g. SSGP, TAC etc), penyertaan agak hebat, ramai pelumba2 RC yang baru datang bertanding dan semua bersoronok sambil ber-RC. ITu yag kita mahukan juga untuk MNC.
Apa pendapat kawan-kawan?
Memang ada pros and cons nya 2 kategori ni. Jadi saya serahkan pada pihak RCAC untuk membuat kata putus.
Apa kata untuk MNC 2010 ni diadakan dua kategori untuk Stock class.
ProStock (11.5T - sbb ramai yang dah ada 11.5T motor ni) dan Stock (17.5T - sbb ada beberapa race organisers dah mula guna 17.5T motor contohnya TAC untuk F1 dan ORCA BL race untuk TC). Untuk "Stock" tak payah lah guna perkataan "Novice" kemungkinan ada juga drivers yang bukan novice nak masuk kategori ni.
Untuk ProStock, biarkan mereka guna semua features ESC generasi baru (timing, boost etc etc).
Untuk Stock, penggunaan features ESC generasi baru ini tidak dibenarkan.
Cadangan saya ini hanyalah bertujuan untuk membangunkan dan menyemarakkan lagi perlumbaan TC yang nampaknye makin dah kelam sejak kebelakangan ini. Penyertaan dalam perlumbaan pun macam dah berkurangan. Ada yang kata masalah kos......dan ada yang kata dah tak best sbb semua pro racers dah main stock, orang2 baru takda chance naik podium.
Jika diperhatikan juga perlumbaan2 yang melibatkan motor yang lebih slow (e.g. SSGP, TAC etc), penyertaan agak hebat, ramai pelumba2 RC yang baru datang bertanding dan semua bersoronok sambil ber-RC. ITu yag kita mahukan juga untuk MNC.
Apa pendapat kawan-kawan?
Memang ada pros and cons nya 2 kategori ni. Jadi saya serahkan pada pihak RCAC untuk membuat kata putus.
06-03-2010, 12:35 PM
#25
17.5T All the Way!
To all fellow racers,
I believe what Sharin had in stated is quite correct. But my only question is, why are we still sticking to 11.5T? This particular turn is only currently being used in a handful of countries worldwide and it is no longer sanctioned by any racing bodies, let alone manufacturers, only, ORION, Team Powers, Speed Passion, Team Wave, ORCA and sorry if I have missed the other few that has 11.5T being sold actively in Malaysia, while there are many more brands selling 17.5T.
ROAR has also tried to come up with a Zero Timing category already which will hopefully be started very soon. I think this is the best thing for new comers, as the speed is relatively manageable for all the new racers. Don't get me wrong, I love speed, but at the rate that the speed is evolving, it is just too scary for all racers. I hope MNC can have the old NOVICE STOCK Class for racers who feel that they would like to join MNC but was afraid of the speed and therefore never join. With the relevant guideline being listed out by ROAR for the Zero Timing rule, it will not be too hard for us. Although I would agree it will be difficult for organizers to sort out who has timing and who dosen't. I believe RCAC will be able to manage that little hiccup.
So in my opinion, we should have 2 classes.
17.5T Zero Timing (Novice)
17.5T Open Timing (Veteran Class)
Just my 2 cents worth of opinion, but I hope this 2 cents can help RCAC come up with a very exciting race for the rest of the year.
Happy RCing.
I believe what Sharin had in stated is quite correct. But my only question is, why are we still sticking to 11.5T? This particular turn is only currently being used in a handful of countries worldwide and it is no longer sanctioned by any racing bodies, let alone manufacturers, only, ORION, Team Powers, Speed Passion, Team Wave, ORCA and sorry if I have missed the other few that has 11.5T being sold actively in Malaysia, while there are many more brands selling 17.5T.
ROAR has also tried to come up with a Zero Timing category already which will hopefully be started very soon. I think this is the best thing for new comers, as the speed is relatively manageable for all the new racers. Don't get me wrong, I love speed, but at the rate that the speed is evolving, it is just too scary for all racers. I hope MNC can have the old NOVICE STOCK Class for racers who feel that they would like to join MNC but was afraid of the speed and therefore never join. With the relevant guideline being listed out by ROAR for the Zero Timing rule, it will not be too hard for us. Although I would agree it will be difficult for organizers to sort out who has timing and who dosen't. I believe RCAC will be able to manage that little hiccup.
So in my opinion, we should have 2 classes.
17.5T Zero Timing (Novice)
17.5T Open Timing (Veteran Class)
Just my 2 cents worth of opinion, but I hope this 2 cents can help RCAC come up with a very exciting race for the rest of the year.
Happy RCing.
06-03-2010, 01:25 PM
#26
Tech Adept
How about handout speedo and fixed timing motor, something like these? I could be wrong, but I think the total cost (speedo + motor) is about the same as a regular motor. The speed of this combo should be just right, not too fast, yet fast enough to be quite exciting.
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/productDetails.asp?p=113
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http://www.speedpassion.net/en/productDetails.asp?p=36
or
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/productDetails.asp?p=34
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/productDetails.asp?p=113
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http://www.speedpassion.net/en/productDetails.asp?p=36
or
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/productDetails.asp?p=34
06-03-2010, 09:33 PM
#27
To all fellow racers,
I believe what Sharin had in stated is quite correct. But my only question is, why are we still sticking to 11.5T? This particular turn is only currently being used in a handful of countries worldwide and it is no longer sanctioned by any racing bodies, let alone manufacturers, only, ORION, Team Powers, Speed Passion, Team Wave, ORCA and sorry if I have missed the other few that has 11.5T being sold actively in Malaysia, while there are many more brands selling 17.5T.
ROAR has also tried to come up with a Zero Timing category already which will hopefully be started very soon. I think this is the best thing for new comers, as the speed is relatively manageable for all the new racers. Don't get me wrong, I love speed, but at the rate that the speed is evolving, it is just too scary for all racers. I hope MNC can have the old NOVICE STOCK Class for racers who feel that they would like to join MNC but was afraid of the speed and therefore never join. With the relevant guideline being listed out by ROAR for the Zero Timing rule, it will not be too hard for us. Although I would agree it will be difficult for organizers to sort out who has timing and who dosen't. I believe RCAC will be able to manage that little hiccup.
So in my opinion, we should have 2 classes.
17.5T Zero Timing (Novice)
17.5T Open Timing (Veteran Class)
Just my 2 cents worth of opinion, but I hope this 2 cents can help RCAC come up with a very exciting race for the rest of the year.
Happy RCing.
I believe what Sharin had in stated is quite correct. But my only question is, why are we still sticking to 11.5T? This particular turn is only currently being used in a handful of countries worldwide and it is no longer sanctioned by any racing bodies, let alone manufacturers, only, ORION, Team Powers, Speed Passion, Team Wave, ORCA and sorry if I have missed the other few that has 11.5T being sold actively in Malaysia, while there are many more brands selling 17.5T.
ROAR has also tried to come up with a Zero Timing category already which will hopefully be started very soon. I think this is the best thing for new comers, as the speed is relatively manageable for all the new racers. Don't get me wrong, I love speed, but at the rate that the speed is evolving, it is just too scary for all racers. I hope MNC can have the old NOVICE STOCK Class for racers who feel that they would like to join MNC but was afraid of the speed and therefore never join. With the relevant guideline being listed out by ROAR for the Zero Timing rule, it will not be too hard for us. Although I would agree it will be difficult for organizers to sort out who has timing and who dosen't. I believe RCAC will be able to manage that little hiccup.
So in my opinion, we should have 2 classes.
17.5T Zero Timing (Novice)
17.5T Open Timing (Veteran Class)
Just my 2 cents worth of opinion, but I hope this 2 cents can help RCAC come up with a very exciting race for the rest of the year.
Happy RCing.
I agree with you that 11.5T may not be ideal as a Stock class motor in the world of RC nowadays. If we really want to go the international route, I guess ProStock class should use 13.5T and Stock class should use 17.5T then.
However, I just had cost in mind. A lot of seasoned racers already own 11.5T motors. Some are relatively new and good for a few more races. Thus, my reason for suggesting we still stick to 11.5T for ProStock in MNC 2010. Perhaps, in MNC 2011, we could change to 13.5T for ProStock. In the mean time, perhaps private organisers could start to organise races using 13.5T motors for Expert / ProStock class.....and MNC (as a national race event) to follow suit in 2011.
If the pro drivers uses 17.5T motors in local races, my worry is these drivers will get totally screwed at regional / international races, unless of course they race in the Stock 17.5T class lar.
Anyway.....these are merely suggestions. RCAC will no doubt deliberate on the matter and decide what it perceives to be the best route to take for the overall benefit and development of TC racing (EP category) in Malaysia.
Regards
06-04-2010, 05:48 AM
#29
Tech Addict
bile kite tkr dr 11.5 ke 13.5, kuar modal lg beli motor... motor 11.5 pn dh brape rmai peminat2 rc kat malaysia ni dh spend (RM, time, effort n bla3...)... effect plak 11.5 nye motor nk campak kat mane... sape lak yg nk beli used/2nd...? macamane dgn low bajet racer... diorg bukannye berbajet besar nk beli itu n ini, esc la, bateri la, hape la... kalo harga motor 13.5 murah gile dari 11.5 xpe la... jd, sebelom MNC nk tukar pd 13.5, tgk2 la org kat bwh ni... mmg pdn la ade org lari dr ep ke gp... now i know... juz pandangan saya...
06-04-2010, 06:18 AM
#30
Suggestion
Since some of our racer already have their own motor, why not MNC make a open race no limit on the motor. I believe some of reason why racer not joining the race because they don't want to spending money on the motor.
If make open race, the organizers no need headache on sorting out of timing issues, argument between racer & organizers about "cheating", "not fair" and so on...
As you know modify motor is not easy to drive, 11.5T is not slow . So both also got pros and cons.
Well this all just only my personal opinion
If make open race, the organizers no need headache on sorting out of timing issues, argument between racer & organizers about "cheating", "not fair" and so on...
As you know modify motor is not easy to drive, 11.5T is not slow . So both also got pros and cons.
Well this all just only my personal opinion