PERBEZAAN ANTARA KIT ORI DENGAN KIT CLONE TAMIYA TRF 416WE
03-25-2010, 07:18 AM
#17
bro kalau clone yg up for sale tu sudah fully hop up with trf punya stuff. so??we got nothing to lose
looking at how much she/he have spent on the cost of transformation. 
ust my 2cent. blue is best
looking at how much she/he have spent on the cost of transformation. ust my 2cent. blue is best
03-25-2010, 07:56 PM
#20
even with tamiya ori parts. i do observe the new parts has a slightly darker blue. however the ori finishing are very good. if u compare options from 3racing. the painting sucks so do the cutting. you notice uneven straights and uneven colors.
for budget racers they can get the 2nd hand ori for good price. usually they won't want to buy the clones. they want the best value for money for sure.
since tamiya keep on producing new models like from 416, 416WE, 416X... maybe later 416Y, 416YE who knows
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for budget racers they can get the 2nd hand ori for good price. usually they won't want to buy the clones. they want the best value for money for sure.
since tamiya keep on producing new models like from 416, 416WE, 416X... maybe later 416Y, 416YE who knows
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03-25-2010, 09:10 PM
#21
Suspended
cetak kotak,cetak manual,bag bunkus part2 tu semua
lagi teruk kosnya rasa2 x berbaloi sebab ni bukan cam jual cd kat pasar malam bro....rasanya kalau ade pun malaun wat cam tu kejap je kantoi lah
dia silap2 kena paksa makan kit palsu dia 2.....
03-25-2010, 09:26 PM
#22
Tech Initiate
ape da lu cita pe ni bro lu igat senang ke nak tiru tu semua
cetak kotak,cetak manual,bag bunkus part2 tu semua
lagi teruk kosnya rasa2 x berbaloi sebab ni bukan cam jual cd kat pasar malam bro....rasanya kalau ade pun malaun wat cam tu kejap je kantoi lah
dia silap2 kena paksa makan kit palsu dia 2.....
cetak kotak,cetak manual,bag bunkus part2 tu semua
lagi teruk kosnya rasa2 x berbaloi sebab ni bukan cam jual cd kat pasar malam bro....rasanya kalau ade pun malaun wat cam tu kejap je kantoi lah
dia silap2 kena paksa makan kit palsu dia 2.....
03-25-2010, 11:20 PM
#23
Wait a minute.... Since the upgrade cost does not justify, and buying an original 416X makes more $$$ sence, you don't have to fork out anymore $$ to buy the clone kit anyway. That savings already!!!
To top that off, you get the latest from Tamiya.....a Original Tamiya TRF416X!!!!
For the benefit of others the 416 series were released by Tamiya in the order of - TRF416 then TRF416WE and current model in TRF416X.
To sum it up, if you want a kit that you only want to bash around without very little concern of performance, reliability and no intention to upgrade, then the clone kit will do. Of course you have to be very discipline to resist the temptation.
But if you have intention to one day make it an original 416WE, might as well save the money and hassle and just buy a original 416X. I stress its a originalTRF 416X and the latest model from Tamiya currently.
Regardless if it is a clone or original the, 416WE is already 1 model behind. Do you want a older model when you can potentially have the latest?
Like the saying goes "You Get What You Pay For"
OM
03-25-2010, 11:30 PM
#24
old-man, you have your point on this.
however there are people i came across on track say different. if i were to save rm1800 for a new ori kit. this will take me months. why not i get a clone for much lesser price. at least i m happy to bash around for long time. when i break something i just substitute with ori tamiya parts. bottomline is boleh main than never main. that is why the clones are avail in m'sia.
bottomline is supply & demand....if no one wants, they cease to exist.
however there are people i came across on track say different. if i were to save rm1800 for a new ori kit. this will take me months. why not i get a clone for much lesser price. at least i m happy to bash around for long time. when i break something i just substitute with ori tamiya parts. bottomline is boleh main than never main. that is why the clones are avail in m'sia.
bottomline is supply & demand....if no one wants, they cease to exist.
Last edited by Toh WL; 03-25-2010 at 11:57 PM.
03-26-2010, 05:59 AM
#25
Hi! Saya pun salah satu dari mereka yang terpegun dgn clone kit ini, memang mahu beli kit clone ini. Tapi masa tu ada offer baik dari seorang seller dan kit dapat satu kit 416 X siap servo,motor dan satu kotak penuh spare parts, jadi saya ambik offer tu. Kalau kira balik kit 416X tu hanya dlm linkungan RM 800 selepas tolak harga barang2 lain. Dan kit ini memang mantap dlm segi handlingnya. Kalau radio bagus dan tangan bagus semua kit pun boleh, kit HY hanya RM 500. Kalau budget hanya untuk HY,apa salahnya kalau ia boleh membesarkan komuniti RC di Malaysia. Terpulanglah, tapi diff plate dan diff ball mesti diganti dgn part ori kalau tak diff akan slip dan itu akan menyebabkan kereta tak consistent bila pandu. Kalau boleh tukar C hub depan sekali dan lain hanya setting aje.
03-26-2010, 06:25 AM
#26
This is what I believe la, kalau silap tlg tunjukkan
03-26-2010, 09:48 AM
#27
hai freind saya adalah salah seorang daripada pemilik 416 clone....saya dah guna kit ni lebih dari 7 bulan dan 8 race saya masuk. setakat ini saya cuma parnah ganti c hub,nuckle dan uj sahaja. pada saya ianye amatlah berbaloi dgn harga rm500 yg telah saya laborkan...dan saya juga ada dengar cerita yg kit clone ni pernah mendapat A main pada race MNC yg lalu..
03-26-2010, 09:56 AM
#28
hai freind saya adalah salah seorang daripada pemilik 416 clone....saya dah guna kit ni lebih dari 7 bulan dan 8 race saya masuk. setakat ini saya cuma parnah ganti c hub,nuckle dan uj sahaja. pada saya ianye amatlah berbaloi dgn harga rm500 yg telah saya laborkan...dan saya juga ada dengar cerita yg kit clone ni pernah mendapat A main pada race MNC yg lalu..
ada setengah org guna kit ori...tapi tetiba upgrade guna option part dari jenama lain(clone).
pada temanlah, ikut poket masing2 lah...tapi macam tak betul jer pandangan teman nie..kalau tak betul tolong betulkan...
03-26-2010, 03:14 PM
#29
I'm not sure if Tamiya will be able to sue over similar design being cloned from their 416x. It takes lots of testing and racing to put together this car. IMO it will only take a year or two before the clones will be able to duplicate the PLASTIC parts exactly down to the correct flex and tolerance. Right now the Japanese and Americans have the best plastics. Cut off the spare parts tree and you can see how the plastic is moulded without any any air pockets and theres very little flexibility for the carbon parts. Compare the plastic parts from the clone kits and you can see the tolerance and flexibility of the plastic is just lower quality.
If you ever been to a machine shop in china and Taiwan, they can measure most metal parts and clone it in a cheaper alloy of aluminium, only the anodizing sets them apart because it is more expensive to anodize the alum parts to get the deep 'rich' TRF Tamiya blue. While they are able to duplicate carbon graphite and alloys as an exact copy, selling cheap coz they dont have to spend on researching the dimensions of these parts... I wont be suprised if next year, there'll be another clone of the branded cars
If you ever been to a machine shop in china and Taiwan, they can measure most metal parts and clone it in a cheaper alloy of aluminium, only the anodizing sets them apart because it is more expensive to anodize the alum parts to get the deep 'rich' TRF Tamiya blue. While they are able to duplicate carbon graphite and alloys as an exact copy, selling cheap coz they dont have to spend on researching the dimensions of these parts... I wont be suprised if next year, there'll be another clone of the branded cars
03-26-2010, 05:18 PM
#30
The difference is in the color