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Old 08-16-2006, 02:17 PM
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Check out the email I received below (in blue). I sold 2 like new Chameleon 19T motors on ebay, see here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330016578091&rd =1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1

Each motor has 3 runs on it and have been cut twice. You'd think this guy would be happy with 2 motors in this condition for $17.50 shipped! He asked me if the motors were cut and I told him twice. He freaked and didn't buy the item but he told the guy that did win the auction that they were cut twice and therefore used up. These are the types of responses I get.

I measured the comms today and one was 0.288 and the other 0.287. Please let this guy know how misinformed he is. He doesn't believe me. I'll send him a link to this thread in a day or two.

Also guys, do yourselves a favor and don't bother trying to sell anything on ebay. I've had better luck selling stuff here and will continue to do so.

The motors do last longer when you cut the comms regularly but NOT if you cut them after every run. 19T motors like the Chameleon, Checkpoint and Reedy Specs can go through a dozen runs without requiring a comm cut.

Also, these Chameleon motors have one of the thinnest comm diameters I've ever encountered (compared to other 19T armatures). They usually last 3-4 comm cuts before they get too thin. And yes I would've known the difference whether the comms have been cut twice or 0 times. Cutting the comm twice will reduce the diameter of the comm substantially. If I'm not mistaken, a new Chameleon 2 commumator will measure about .290" in diameter. I'm not as ignorant as you think I am.

Let me ask you this, have you ever operated a comm lathe before?
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Old 08-16-2006, 02:42 PM
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I cut all my motors every run and they last for at least a dozen race weekends. I think I cut a lot less than .001" per cut so thats 30-40 cuts on a new motor (.300" new to .269" used up).
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Old 08-16-2006, 02:49 PM
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Old 08-16-2006, 04:05 PM
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Tony, quit using Craftsman screw drivers for lathe bits and you won't get that kind of negative feedback! "Let me ask you this, have you ever operated a comm lather before?"
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
I cut all my motors every run and they last for at least a dozen race weekends. I think I cut a lot less than .001" per cut so thats 30-40 cuts on a new motor (.300" new to .269" used up).
Is there a certain way you keep track of the cuts ,Or do you keep them in your head or just guessamating ! Whats your system .

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When I look at a comm and say hmmm... that looks small I measure it. I will keep cutting until I hit .269" After that the comm can peel and wipe out your diamond nit.

Nobody really keeps track of cuts.
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I usually make more on my items by selling them on ebay but yeah, you gotta deal with a couple of tools here and there. Part of the deal it seams.

Next time you have two 19t motors for that price send me a pm....
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Here are a few email updates. Feel free to post you comments.

My latest response:

Yes, I think you are that ignorant. I get 40+ cuts out of every motor
I run so whoever cuts your motors is an idiot. Who the f**k wastes an
arm with 3 cuts? Ha, that's hilarious! I wouldn't get through a
weekend racing with your method. Keep up the good work.

I just measured both these arms and you're right, they are used up, one
measures 0.288, and the other is completely wasted at 0.287. Wow, I
guess my lathe just sucks. Go away you retard you obvious don't know
sh*t about RC motors.

At least I understand how misinformed you are now and why you didn't
want these motors, your loss.

His reply (cleaned up for vulgar language). This guy is awesome!

Oh, Mr. Dipsh*t with 40+ cuts to a f***ing motor. Dream on, faggot. You're the f***ing retard. You obviously have sh*t for brains, motherf***er. You're just a f***ing newbie who f***ing goes to your local hobby shop and get your comms cut for $5. You don't even own a f***ing lathe. Hell you probably don't even own a real RC. You probably jacked these motors from someone else's RC car you piece of sh*t. Flips like you be deported back to the Philippines. You're a waste of the earth's air, c**tface.
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Originally Posted by nf_ekt
I usually make more on my items by selling them on ebay but yeah, you gotta deal with a couple of tools here and there. Part of the deal it seams.

Next time you have two 19t motors for that price send me a pm....
Ok I will.
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Just don't waste your time. If this guy is for real, he must have the IQ of a cinder block.
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