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Old 02-02-2006, 04:39 PM   #31
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No matter what motor you're talking about, you might want to talk to Eric Anderson. He knows how to make these little motors sing. Thanks; Ernie P.
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I am a big fan of the C2 myself, but the new Atlas motors have been looking impressive on the Dyno and with a tight power band so you should be able to go up possibly a couple teeth.. Atlas I did last night did 168 Watts at a 28 amp load.. Still has yet to beat my record of a C2 with 176 Watts @ 28 amps. Both will average 150 watts though...
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what's a C2 and where can I get one, and who is Eric Anderson?
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Apple-Eric Anderson is the Proud Ownder of EA Motorsports.
If you do a search for EA Motorsports it will give you his site.

These guys forget sometimes that the guys asking questions are NEW and dont know abreviations.lol.

C2 stands for a Trinity Chameleon 2.

Instead of buying a Trinity we are recommending using one that someone else has tuned.

EA motorsports,and a list of others.

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what's a C2 and where can I get one, and who is Eric Anderson?
C2 is an EPIC based 19t and currently is the only one legalized by ROAR.

We have them at www.axiommotors.com

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No matter how well tuned or how fast the 19T spec is (Atlas or C2) it will never be a match for a 19T "modified' like the DC Outlaw.
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would you believe it if I said I am getting a little confused ;-)

why do I think that most hand-wound motors would be faster than "most" machine wound motors... even those who are tuned? or, am I making a thinking mistake here....

same thinking as that most 8 turn motors would be faster than "most" 15 turn motors...

so the "hand wound" factor doesn't make that much difference?

considering that we are allowed all 19T's, would a DC motorsports or a EA motorsports be faster?..

(yes, I am going to mail EA for his advice)
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No matter how well tuned or how fast the 19T spec is (Atlas or C2) it will never be a match for a 19T "modified' like the DC Outlaw.
Well I have ran both and it depends on the track. The DC Outlaw 19Turn will be faster on most tracks. It is handwound (less wire), it has a large groove milled in it (less weight and less torque), and it has larger wire (more current flow). But on a small tight track a C2 or atlas will run better because they will have more torque since the arm hasnt had any material removed from it. This has been my findings when running them back to back on my home track that is smal and very tight (usually).

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would you believe it if I said I am getting a little confused ;-)

why do I think that most hand-wound motors would be faster than "most" machine wound motors... even those who are tuned? or, am I making a thinking mistake here....

same thinking as that most 8 turn motors would be faster than "most" 15 turn motors...

so the "hand wound" factor doesn't make that much difference?

considering that we are allowed all 19T's, would a DC motorsports or a EA motorsports be faster?..

(yes, I am going to mail EA for his advice)

Yes you are right. A handwound motor "should" be better than a machine wound motor.

See my other post below this...It will answer your last question...It all depends on the track and layout.

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There is more to a motor than just the wind (number of turns).

All things equal a handwound motor will still be faster than a machine wound. Maybe not a whole lot but still faster.
The armature will have less wire on it (less resistance = more power) and be a bit more effecient.

If you buy an Outlaw the wire used will be thicker than the wire used on a Chameleon/atlas or other spec motor.
Thicker wire = less resistence = more power.
The groove in the center of the arm will also make a bit more HP than and arm without it.

The difference between a spec motor and a 19T "mod" is quite eurhm, huge

IMO DC motorsports makes the best 19T but Br00d has a very nice one as well.
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But on a small tight track a C2 or atlas will run better because they will have more torque since the arm hasnt had any material removed from it.
Could be, the tracks I race at don't qualify for that I guess
I'd have to see it to believe it though, but I don't want to argue with The Man

Some tracks are even 1:5 gas car tracks
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well, I am impressed with the honest answer from EA.

I just send EA an e-mail which now you can ignore.. of course ;-)

I know now what to do now...


p.s. EA, if you are willing to "make" me a 19 Turn mod motor, I could buy it from you at the birds...
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Could be, the tracks I race at don't qualify for that I guess
I'd have to see it to believe it though, but I don't want to argue with The Man

Some tracks are even 1:5 gas car tracks
On a track that large then the Outlaw motors WILL be faster all the time. The track I race on is 65x40 and is usually very tight with a lot of 180's. The best I ever got the Outlaw arms to run was putting them into a C2 can or Reedy quad magnet can...They will run twice as good as in a mod can. This is because of the laydown brushes (better compounds to choose from) and the increased overlap of the laydown brushes.

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how does the smaller comm diameter compare to brush size use....

and, what laydown brush to use?... those "popular" F-brushes?

it all starts to make more and more sense... now i understand why dc motorsports and ea uses the cans they use...

so my D5 with a 19T (hand wound) most likely would be faster in a C2 can?..hmmm, very interesting...

and my "trick" to buy a modified Team Checkpoint motor and replace the armature with a hand wound 19Turn may fail .. ;-)
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