Tamiya M-07 Concept
#826
Finished building the car at 5.30pm, was TQ 4 hours later
I ran a full size pack because I was short on time to make shorty fit, with my m05 I was a lot faster with the shorty pack so will switch for next week.
totally box stock M-07r apart from using 350cst shock oil all round.
I ran a full size pack because I was short on time to make shorty fit, with my m05 I was a lot faster with the shorty pack so will switch for next week.
totally box stock M-07r apart from using 350cst shock oil all round.
#827
DaSilva,
-how much does your car weigh (w/ body and ready to run)?
I notice your running a long pack ...hence why I ask.
FYI,
I run a shorty pack then put about 30grams of weight under and behind the motor (there is a small space between the back of the motor and the battery compartment). I am at 1301 (weight limit being minimum 1300).
-how much does your car weigh (w/ body and ready to run)?
I notice your running a long pack ...hence why I ask.
FYI,
I run a shorty pack then put about 30grams of weight under and behind the motor (there is a small space between the back of the motor and the battery compartment). I am at 1301 (weight limit being minimum 1300).
Checked last night. Race ready full size batt pack with Miata body came in at 1249 with sweep wheels / tires. I will be adding the sway bars which will add a bit along with the Tamiya M / S grip combo probably another 20gram from where I'm at. My M05 with tricks was down to 1340 I think so pretty big difference :O I don't race TCS nor is there a Mini class so I don't have any rules to meet. I might bring it up to 1300 though just because and place the weight accordingly
#829
Tire wear may drop you below the minimum. Fyi
1305g for me, long pack, S-grips, TCS 'legal'. lol
1305g for me, long pack, S-grips, TCS 'legal'. lol
I do occassionaly add a single body clip under the body if I am worried ..that usually bumps me up a tad.
I ran a full size pack because I was short on time to make shorty fit, with my m05 I was a lot faster with the shorty pack so will switch for next week.
My M05 with tricks was down to 1340 I think so pretty big difference
#830
Trying to find the correct Spring part number for the M chassis big bore shocks (The Latest black version that came on the M05 V2 R)
I think it's part #42168, just wondering if someone can confirm?
I think it's part #42168, just wondering if someone can confirm?
#831
42168 is what the M07R comes with
#832
#834
Tech Rookie
SSBB on M07
seems like i am not the only one looking into this
with simple math approach, (please correct me if i am going wrong.)
#54790 damper stays lowers the height of the top ends of the dampers by 2.5mm which is designed for, according to Tamiya, using TRF short dampers(#42273 supposedly) which is approximately 4mm shorter (2mm on body /2mm from shaft) than TRF special dampers(#42102) from M07R kits from what I researched.
SSBB(#42305) is 1.2mm wider in diameter and 6.5mm shorter than #42102.
in short, #42102 61mm / #42273 57mm/ SSBB 54.5mm. (total lengths could vary while assembling like +/- 0.5mm or more) which seem like some sort of modifications like stock shafts on SSBB might be needed to use SSBB on M07 with #54790 damper stays.
well this is what i got so far for now waiting for others' more professional inputs
#835
Tech Master
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dependent on which shocks are being used... most people make due by swapping the plastic ball ends; either the short or the long and/or internal limiters. I've used them all successfully, full TC shock with internal limiters and short ball ends, mini "big bore" with long ball ends, and SSBB with long ball ends. HTH
more importantly, is the fact that all of the old springs will 'not' work/fit nicely on non SSBB shocks. to use the SSBB you will have to buy the latest touring car big bore springs. the ones with the heat shrink identification (red, yellow, green, etc) short/long versions.
more importantly, is the fact that all of the old springs will 'not' work/fit nicely on non SSBB shocks. to use the SSBB you will have to buy the latest touring car big bore springs. the ones with the heat shrink identification (red, yellow, green, etc) short/long versions.
Last edited by Markus; 04-19-2019 at 08:52 PM. Reason: correction for the mini police
#836
All true, there is no official way to adapt SSBB dampers in the M07 and benefit from the the shorter length to reduce c.o.g.. As the upper ball end is the same, the shock body will not be lower than the M05R BB dampers body. And you have to change piston rod or unscrew the lower ball end etc..
The best idea would be change the upper ball end: cut the plastic part completely off the base disc, drill a 3mm hole and screw on a lower ball end or something similar. So the shock body comes down in reference to the chassis. Not to difficult to do, but for sure only allowed in open classes. But makes much more sense than using longer ball ends on the lower end in my eyes...
The best idea would be change the upper ball end: cut the plastic part completely off the base disc, drill a 3mm hole and screw on a lower ball end or something similar. So the shock body comes down in reference to the chassis. Not to difficult to do, but for sure only allowed in open classes. But makes much more sense than using longer ball ends on the lower end in my eyes...
#837
"m-chassis big bore" #42291 are not the same as what comes on the m05 v2R and are actually a bigger bore than standard , they look very similar but do take a different piston to standard m-chassis shocks like the #5400 which are the same size as the v2R shocks
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The real question is, if you go to all this trouble will it make a measurable difference on the track?
Cos if the times aren't quicker, then....
Cos if the times aren't quicker, then....
#839
Tech Champion
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dependent on which shocks are being used... most people make due by swapping the plastic ball ends; either the short or the long and/or internal limiters. I've used them all successfully, full TC shock with internal limiters and short ball ends, mini "big bore" (which they are not, since standard pistons are used) with long ball ends, and SSBB with long ball ends. HTH
more importantly, is the fact that all of the old springs will 'not' work/fit nicely on non SSBB shocks. to use the SSBB you will have to buy the latest touring car big bore springs. the ones with the heat shrink identification (red, yellow, green, etc) short/long versions.
more importantly, is the fact that all of the old springs will 'not' work/fit nicely on non SSBB shocks. to use the SSBB you will have to buy the latest touring car big bore springs. the ones with the heat shrink identification (red, yellow, green, etc) short/long versions.
#840
Tech Rookie
3racing DCJs fitting
Hi,
Anyone else have trouble fitting the 3racing DCJs to standard m07 steering knuckle? They seem to come up a bit short and don't allow the wheel hex pin to slide through. I've checked that the bearings are pushed in fully, and don't have the same issue when replacing with the kit stock drive shaft.
I'm starting to wonder if they only work with the 3racing aluminium knuckle.
Anyone else have trouble fitting the 3racing DCJs to standard m07 steering knuckle? They seem to come up a bit short and don't allow the wheel hex pin to slide through. I've checked that the bearings are pushed in fully, and don't have the same issue when replacing with the kit stock drive shaft.
I'm starting to wonder if they only work with the 3racing aluminium knuckle.