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MTC1 Manual on the Mugen Web Site.

Correction for the manual




The max/min tooth count of the spur and pinion combined.

64p = 127 to 164 total teeth


48p = 95 to 120 total teeth


People who have spare spur gears left over from other cars which they wish to use but can only utilize 2 of the 4 mounting holes, here's neat trick from MKAH to drill 2 more holes precisely in the spur gear:

1.Dismantle the Spur Holder and mount XRAY Spur with two screws.

2.If you have take a 3mm Top Setting Screw

3.Get the Top Screw in the first free thread to the Spur Holder from the other side until it touches the Spur a litle bit.
Make the same with the second free Thread.


4.Dismantle Top set Srew an the two screws witch holds the Spur on the Holder.
Now you see two marks absolutely central.


5. Take an 3mm Driller an Drill the holes at the marked places

6.Mount the Spur with the two old and two new holes on the Spur.


Spur Gears known to fit the gear holder with the correct hole pattern

1. Axon
2. Panaracer


Upper front arm hinge pin set screw tip (or any of the kit set screws):

When installing the set screw run the set screw in until you can see it come into the hinge pin gap. Back the screw out and make sure there is no flashing in the way and then the screw. Now slide the pin in and you should hit the pin and come to a dead stop. It will be a solid feel and not sloppy like it will not tighten which is caused by any loose plastic.

Hara's Setup


Robert Pietsch's Latest Carpet Setup

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Old 06-01-2017, 08:00 PM
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I agree on both points.

The Kawada Sigma was absolutely identical front to back in everything before all those cars you mention (2004-ish). That meant you only had to have one suspension arm spare, the bulkheads were the same, suspension mounts likewise (shock towers different).

It also had the benefit that being a single belt you could hook the motor and its associated hardware (all mounted to the motor bulkhead) at any point along the chassis (the car came with three pre-drilled sets of holes so you could have the motor forward, mid and rear) so you could choose your weight balance.

I think our cars a bit rear-biased these days because the motor hangs out the back and the electronics are up front, whilst the battery is somewhere in the middle (lengthwise). Sure, you can usually balance it out, but then you have differences left to right depending on where you place weights (how far from the centre line). This results in different inertia moments when the car rolls and this will affect how your car turns left to right. I am not sure I can measure these differences (or if they really make a difference to your car's handling) but I am sure they do exist.

This is why I am in the process of making a single belt car with central motor and saddle pack battery in an effort to distribute the weight symmetrically. More an experiment to see if it makes any difference than anything. We'll see.
something similar to the gizmo gz1 correct ? Just without the double spur gears right ?
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The motor was not central left to right and bulkheads were aluminium alloy.

The car also had the narrowest bulkheads because the belt was centralised, so the diffs were the same front to back. This also meant the driveshafts were the longest I have seen in a TC, and so were the suspension arms. Very good for suspension tuning. The arms were actually moulded with two sets of holes, so you could cut them short and make the car narrower by 6mm. CVD joints standard, but no DCJ option ever developed and very difficult to adapt because of the driveshaft length.

The bulkhead width is so small, no other diff on the market fits in between.

Here's a few pictures:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...tc-sigma-1.jpg

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...mage_00002.jpg

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...rms-resize.jpg

Some of those show an earlier version, the SV-10, but the design is the same, differences are in how "polished" the parts are (more slender and delicate on the Sigma).
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The motor was not central left to right and bulkheads were aluminium alloy.


The bulkhead width is so small, no other diff on the market fits in between.
Wow, the diffs look really small. How durable was it, compared with other diffs the internal gears must have been a lot smaller.
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It was a ball diff
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It was a ball diff
Ok, that makes sense then.
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Crickets up in here!
So glad i didn't wait for this to come out.
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Guys, I understand but there is no representative from Mugen here, this is there fault. But I am willing to wait for further updates, I hope someone from Mugen will see this and start giving us updates.
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Complete car pics now on Mugen Seiki Co Ltd facebook page.
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Nice looking car
Attached Thumbnails Mugen MTC1-19059995_10155368445614054_5722431362768152702_n.jpg   Mugen MTC1-19060011_10155368445559054_5025428876521724836_n.jpg   Mugen MTC1-19060082_10155368446569054_4065528906724803711_n.jpg   Mugen MTC1-19060110_10155368445629054_3387510509622594037_n.jpg   Mugen MTC1-19105487_10155368445774054_8454598644160113144_n.jpg  

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This for sure will be my next TC. ������
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Preorders start in a couple weeks per Mugen
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Preorders start in a couple weeks per Mugen
And released end of July
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