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MTC1 Manual on the Mugen Web Site.

Correction for the manual




The max/min tooth count of the spur and pinion combined.

64p = 127 to 164 total teeth


48p = 95 to 120 total teeth


People who have spare spur gears left over from other cars which they wish to use but can only utilize 2 of the 4 mounting holes, here's neat trick from MKAH to drill 2 more holes precisely in the spur gear:

1.Dismantle the Spur Holder and mount XRAY Spur with two screws.

2.If you have take a 3mm Top Setting Screw

3.Get the Top Screw in the first free thread to the Spur Holder from the other side until it touches the Spur a litle bit.
Make the same with the second free Thread.


4.Dismantle Top set Srew an the two screws witch holds the Spur on the Holder.
Now you see two marks absolutely central.


5. Take an 3mm Driller an Drill the holes at the marked places

6.Mount the Spur with the two old and two new holes on the Spur.


Spur Gears known to fit the gear holder with the correct hole pattern

1. Axon
2. Panaracer


Upper front arm hinge pin set screw tip (or any of the kit set screws):

When installing the set screw run the set screw in until you can see it come into the hinge pin gap. Back the screw out and make sure there is no flashing in the way and then the screw. Now slide the pin in and you should hit the pin and come to a dead stop. It will be a solid feel and not sloppy like it will not tighten which is caused by any loose plastic.

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Old 05-26-2017, 08:59 AM   #61
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Well, now that we've clearly established it has suspension arms, a differential and shocks. Let us also note that this chassis also looks like the most relevant new threat to the big names in TC. Or am I the only one thinking this crazy stuff?
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DavidNERODease, why would you say that? I would think they need to race the car and start getting good results before you could make that claim....right?
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Alu gear diff case?? Is this made by GPM? I cannot think of any advantage by using alu diff case.
More reliable dimensional accuracy than moulding plastics. That turned out to be somewhat of a problem in the past with all sorts of reliability issues.

Besides, I think it's a lot easier to correct a problem if you manufacture using CNC rather than plastic injection moulds. Not to mention it would hurt a manufacturer to throw away a serious investment in a mould if the product turned out to have problems. With CNC it will be just a cheap software revision. Who wouldn't be tempted to just keep churning out parts that they know are not up to scratch to recover at least the money they put in the mould? My guess is a lot of companies actually did that in the past, and I suspect this was one of the reasons.

Personally I prefer aluminium, the diffs made by Losi for their new 4WD buggy are absolutely brilliant, all steel gears and alloy case, very nice product, strong and reliable and minimum weight penalty (about 5 grams if that) and the seals actually keep the fluid inside with no faffing around when building. Not to mention they have straight cut gears, which means no loss of efficiency due to thrust. I only wish TC cars had diffs like that. The Corally NGX diff was very short lived and the casing poorly designed and leaked like a sieve, though a brilliant concept - with a bit more work it could have been the new standard in TC diffs. I was actually hoping one of the big guns would pick up the idea and further develop it after Corally went down.

But don't be so sure the cars will actually have aluminium diffs when launched.
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DavidNERODease, why would you say that? I would think they need to race the car and start getting good results before you could make that claim....right?
Because this is Mugen not xyz that nobody has ever heard of until last week. Because this is a well established world championship winning company with a solid reputation, racing team, resources etc. Because the deign of the car is a further refinement of what is proven to work awesome. Because it would seem naive to think otherwise.
Or maybe I'm just excited to see another potentially good car on the market. Maybe.
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Because...
IFMAR 1/8 Off-Road World Championship in Argentina - Robert Batlle 2012-2013
IFMAR 1/8 Off-Road World Championship in Sweden - Guillaume Vray 2004-2005
IFMAR 1/8 Off-Road World Championship in Thailand - Koji Sanada 1990-1991
IFMAR 1/8 On-Road World Championship in USA - Robert Pietsch 2011-2012
IFMAR 1/8 On-Road World Championship in Australia - Kenji Osaka 2001-2002
IFMAR 1/8 On-Road World Championship in France - Adrian Bertin 1999-2000
IFMAR 1/10 GP Touring World Championship in Australia - Keisuke Fukuda 2006-2007
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Germany - Robert Batlle 2011
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Portugal - Renaud Savoya 2010
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Austria - Renaud Savoya 2009
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Greece - Renaud Savoya 2008
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Spain - Daniel Vega 1999
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Portugal - Robert Pietsch 2012
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Italy - Robert Pietsch 2010
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Spain - Jernej Vuga 2008
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Greece - Daniele Ielasi 2005
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Spain - Daniele Ielasi 2002
EFRA 1/10 200mm Touring European Championship in Spain - Robert Pietsch 2014
EFRA 1/10 200mm Touring European Championship in Germany - Robert Pietsch 2011
And other National Champion
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Because...
IFMAR 1/8 Off-Road World Championship in Argentina - Robert Batlle 2012-2013
IFMAR 1/8 Off-Road World Championship in Sweden - Guillaume Vray 2004-2005
IFMAR 1/8 Off-Road World Championship in Thailand - Koji Sanada 1990-1991
IFMAR 1/8 On-Road World Championship in USA - Robert Pietsch 2011-2012
IFMAR 1/8 On-Road World Championship in Australia - Kenji Osaka 2001-2002
IFMAR 1/8 On-Road World Championship in France - Adrian Bertin 1999-2000
IFMAR 1/10 GP Touring World Championship in Australia - Keisuke Fukuda 2006-2007
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Germany - Robert Batlle 2011
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Portugal - Renaud Savoya 2010
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Austria - Renaud Savoya 2009
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Greece - Renaud Savoya 2008
EFRA 1/8 Off-Road European Championship in Spain - Daniel Vega 1999
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Portugal - Robert Pietsch 2012
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Italy - Robert Pietsch 2010
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Spain - Jernej Vuga 2008
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Greece - Daniele Ielasi 2005
EFRA 1/8 On-Road European Championship in Spain - Daniele Ielasi 2002
EFRA 1/10 200mm Touring European Championship in Spain - Robert Pietsch 2014
EFRA 1/10 200mm Touring European Championship in Germany - Robert Pietsch 2011
And other National Champion
thats like using Micheal Jordans basketball career then commenting that he will be a great hockey player .

just saying
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Sugar, I might have to buy this car now, LOL.
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They have only won 4 On-Road World Champions including one 1/10 touring title. All gas powered so they obviously can't play hockey. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt here and stick to my guns.
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DavidNERODease, I'm not saying they wont have a top level car. Just that we might not want to jump to that conclusion. Trust me, I will be the first in line to try one out... I just hate seeing companies price there kits like they are world champs and they haven't even won a major race yet.
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I just hate seeing companies price there kits like they are world champs and they haven't even won a major race yet.
The pricing of the kit has to be reflected in the component quality. For high pricing worked for Xray and Awesomatix before they were a major force in racing. The quality of the components and machine work was directly reflected in the price.
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I was going to buy the new mi6 evo, but will wit for this kit, always wanted a mugen
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thats like using Micheal Jordans basketball career then commenting that he will be a great hockey player .

just saying
I'd have to disagree slightly with your analogy...that's an individual not a company. I'd say it's more like Ferrari getting into NASCAR...which in turn kinda supports DavidNERODease's point. Either way I'm looking forward to seeing the design in detail...
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I'd have to disagree slightly with your analogy...that's an individual not a company. I'd say it's more like Ferrari getting into NASCAR...which in turn kinda supports DavidNERODease's point. Either way I'm looking forward to seeing the design in detail...
Just to keep the fun going. How about using the Yankees baseball history, then announcing their entry into Hockey. I think that works😉
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niznai: So, that the alu diff case is easier to produce by CNC then making a prefect plastic diff case. Seems like a prefect diff cases, I know is make by Xray, VBC, ARC, Schumacher Racing.... Mugen can't.
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It is all about racers. If Mugen hires all the racers, this car will be called winning car. The question is, who the top racer is going to drive this MTC1

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