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MTC1 Manual on the Mugen Web Site.

Correction for the manual




The max/min tooth count of the spur and pinion combined.

64p = 127 to 164 total teeth


48p = 95 to 120 total teeth


People who have spare spur gears left over from other cars which they wish to use but can only utilize 2 of the 4 mounting holes, here's neat trick from MKAH to drill 2 more holes precisely in the spur gear:

1.Dismantle the Spur Holder and mount XRAY Spur with two screws.

2.If you have take a 3mm Top Setting Screw

3.Get the Top Screw in the first free thread to the Spur Holder from the other side until it touches the Spur a litle bit.
Make the same with the second free Thread.


4.Dismantle Top set Srew an the two screws witch holds the Spur on the Holder.
Now you see two marks absolutely central.


5. Take an 3mm Driller an Drill the holes at the marked places

6.Mount the Spur with the two old and two new holes on the Spur.


Spur Gears known to fit the gear holder with the correct hole pattern

1. Axon
2. Panaracer


Upper front arm hinge pin set screw tip (or any of the kit set screws):

When installing the set screw run the set screw in until you can see it come into the hinge pin gap. Back the screw out and make sure there is no flashing in the way and then the screw. Now slide the pin in and you should hit the pin and come to a dead stop. It will be a solid feel and not sloppy like it will not tighten which is caused by any loose plastic.

Hara's Setup


Robert Pietsch's Latest Carpet Setup

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Old 09-06-2017, 01:45 PM
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What do u guys think about this bad boy running on black carpet without the recommended alu chassis ? How do u think it'll go ? The alu chassis is not available right now so that's why I'm asking .
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My kit should arrive tomorrow. What is the internal ratio?
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My kit should arrive tomorrow. What is the internal ratio?
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Originally Posted by Mitchy1986 View Post
I miss the “sweet spot / pinion-spur fitment“ area in this chart.
Tricky to choose the right combination before building the kit.
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What spurs fit the MTC1?
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Originally Posted by niznai View Post
Plastic is more durable there than metal (unless you use some exotic alloys or metals, which gets expensive really quickly and then you kill the belt).

Their choice of plastic is not the best in my opinion (looks like Kevlar from the pictures) but still better than alloy (even 7075 does not last long against the rubbing of the belt).

Delrin H is much better (probably the best choice of material) but it can not be injected, it has to be machined, and again that gets a bit more expensive. Some companies have option parts in Delrin H (avoid copolymer) and they are a bit exxy, but worth every penny in my opinion.

I have bought some Delrin H and machined my own parts, but it is a pain in the dorongo and I avoid it (until I see the prices for off the shelf parts).
I wasn't talking about the pulley, I was talking about the plastic drive cups
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease View Post
What spurs fit the MTC1?
As the manual pictures an axon spur, I guess it's safe to say that would def fit
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I wasn't talking about the pulley, I was talking about the plastic drive cups
I see.

Even those, I think are better made of plastic. Metal doesn't have any benefit other than ensuring that in an unfortunate event something important breaks. I'd rather the drive cups broke than bending a drive shaft or worse. You need some failure points built in the system, preferably some cheap consumable part that can be replaced with no drama.

Besides, metal drive cups will wear out and they'll wear the driveshaft as well, so you'll have to replace both at some point and they're both going to be expensive.
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Originally Posted by niznai View Post
I see.

Even those, I think are better made of plastic. Metal doesn't have any benefit other than ensuring that in an unfortunate event something important breaks. I'd rather the drive cups broke than bending a drive shaft or worse. You need some failure points built in the system, preferably some cheap consumable part that can be replaced with no drama.

Besides, metal drive cups will wear out and they'll wear the driveshaft as well, so you'll have to replace both at some point and they're both going to be expensive.
I'm really curious to see how well the plastic outdrives can hold up in comparison to metal/aluminum ones.
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease View Post
What spurs fit the MTC1?
I used my axon that I had on my BD7's.
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Originally Posted by Donkey View Post
Can anyone say if the body shares mounting location with either the Xray or Yokomo?
front holes line up. rear holes are approx 3mm further back and about 1mm further out than my Yokomo's
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Originally Posted by snuvet75 View Post
I'm really curious to see how well the plastic outdrives can hold up in comparison to metal/aluminum ones.
Long term, they'll probably hold up just as any plastic.

Short term (in a crash) I would want them to break and relieve the strain off more expensive parts.

But can anyone post a picture of the plastic part? I am not sure I understand which part is plastic. Is it an Xray type arrangement?
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Originally Posted by niznai View Post
Long term, they'll probably hold up just as any plastic.

Short term (in a crash) I would want them to break and relieve the strain off more expensive parts.

But can anyone post a picture of the plastic part? I am not sure I understand which part is plastic. Is it an Xray type arrangement?
There's a good close up pic of the spool on the previous page. Plastic outdrives bolt onto the alloy spool.
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From the manual
Attached Thumbnails Mugen MTC1-untitled.png  
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But of course. That is exactly Xray style.

I think that should be a pretty durable setup and like I said, what would you rather replace if you crash?
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