Most Powerful 21.5T, 17.5T, and 13.5T Motors?
#121
Tech Regular

Interesting... on both my T4 ('17 and '19), any motor mounts pretty darn close to that super-thin layer of CWF left where they've milled the chassis... not sure how I could mount anything any lower, really, offset mounting points or not? Can you explain what I'm missing? Thanks!
#122
Tech Master



#123
Tech Master

Considering that chassis manufactures make a big deal out of lowering a piece of carbon fibre by 0.5mm... these SMC motors have a massive influence on the CG of the car in comparison. Besides the now obvious lower mounting, you can see from the pics that the mass of the stator will move inboard. Plus the motor is much lighter so again you gain in all areas chassis performance. I'm putting a SMC Lowrider in my Awesomatix to build the ultimate CG/polar moment car.
#124

Smc lowriders really lower the CG, but will it be legal for long ? It looks like a 380 can with lots of glue around it....
#125
Tech Master

No glue, just superior design.
#126
Tech Adept

plz post if I missed it in the rule book as aid only a quick look
#127
Tech Master

It is 540, just doesn't have a "can".
#128
Tech Master

Lowrider is ROAR and BRCA approved.
#129

I was under the impression that all the motors had to have a 36+mm can or outside dimensions of sorts... Yeah I guess it's ok for racers to run their motors without a can, just as long as it is glued together properly...I put CA on my aluminum motor screws to prevent stator shorts, is that legal or can I legally just glue the can together without any screws at all ??? What about plastic, carbon or tungsten rotor shafts ??? Rotors are the only parts we really need from the motor; all the other parts are 'optional' and subject to removal, right...Would a wireless stator be legal under the current rules ??? I guess it is legal when X company does it, regardless of the written rules....
I know we're still a few decades away from motorless propulsion, but come on guys, this motor should be the next 'catch of the month'.....lol ....
I know we're still a few decades away from motorless propulsion, but come on guys, this motor should be the next 'catch of the month'.....lol ....
Last edited by bertrandsv87; 06-25-2019 at 04:04 PM.
#130

I was under the impression that all the motors had to have a 36+mm can or outside dimensions of sorts... Yeah I guess it's ok for racers to run their motors without a can, just as long as it is glued together properly...I put CA on my aluminum motor screws to prevent stator shorts, is that legal or can I legally just glue the can together without any screws at all ??? What about plastic, carbon or tungsten rotor shafts ??? Rotors are the only parts we really need from the motor; all the other parts are 'optional' and subject to removal, right...Would a wireless stator be legal under the current rules ??? I guess it is legal when X company does it, regardless of the written rules....
I know we're still a few decades away from motorless propulsion, but come on guys, this motor should be the next 'catch of the month'.....lol ....
I know we're still a few decades away from motorless propulsion, but come on guys, this motor should be the next 'catch of the month'.....lol ....
#131

The diameter of the motor is by about 2 mm smaller compared to conventional motor. Without an offset the motor will appear to be 1 mm above the plate. The holes are offset such that you have motor's downside exactly at the same position as any conventional motor. The upper side of the motor is 2 mm lower and the CG (shaft) is again 1 mm lower.
... and i'm tempted, I have to say. That LCG stuff will have a LOT more influence than any hypothetical 0.1% extra HP...
thank you

#132
Tech Regular

As for the CG is even better - the motor is 10-15 g lighter than a conventional motor. So if you don't change anything else on the car but the motor, you will have to balance the chassis. You put the balancing weights as low as possible (on the chassis and under the motor CG). The overall effect will be even lower CG of the overall mass related to the motor than what the offset holes suggest.
#134

I was under the impression that all the motors had to have a 36+mm can or outside dimensions of sorts... Yeah I guess it's ok for racers to run their motors without a can, just as long as it is glued together properly...I put CA on my aluminum motor screws to prevent stator shorts, is that legal or can I legally just glue the can together without any screws at all ??? What about plastic, carbon or tungsten rotor shafts ??? Rotors are the only parts we really need from the motor; all the other parts are 'optional' and subject to removal, right...Would a wireless stator be legal under the current rules ??? I guess it is legal when X company does it, regardless of the written rules....
I know we're still a few decades away from motorless propulsion, but come on guys, this motor should be the next 'catch of the month'.....lol ....
I know we're still a few decades away from motorless propulsion, but come on guys, this motor should be the next 'catch of the month'.....lol ....
