Xray strong on power understeer
#16
To try a stiffer rear is not the way to go. I use hard Springs rear and in slow corners rear is not solid in corner exit, but in fast corner rear is granitic and front has no much steering.
#17
I did it. Shorter than possible in the front and longer in the rear. It helped a bit but not totally. Now the car feels good but no in fast corners.
To try a stiffer rear is not the way to go. I use hard Springs rear and in slow corners rear is not solid in corner exit, but in fast corner rear is granitic and front has no much steering.
To try a stiffer rear is not the way to go. I use hard Springs rear and in slow corners rear is not solid in corner exit, but in fast corner rear is granitic and front has no much steering.
I have also made a couple of suggestions in my previous post, near the bottom of the last page.
Also, what size track?
Is this carpet or asphalt?
Stock or modified?
#22
Try on your left rear ARB sliding the ball link in approx. 3mm from the end and run the car to see if that is enough.
#23
About wheelbase, someone said me short in the front and long in the rear. Now you and other user say me the contrary. In my opinion the weight should be transfer in the front not rear, because I need more grip in the front end. I mean weight transfer, not static weight.
I think is the contrary, so I always moved in that direction, adding weight (transfer) to the front.
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I did it to get more direct steering for chicanes.
So, do you mean a stiffer roll bar? Yes, this will improve steering, I'll try.
#24
That's a large, fast, nitro asphalt track. Modified class.
About wheelbase, someone said me short in the front and long in the rear. Now you and other user say me the contrary. In my opinion the weight should be transfer in the front not rear, because I need more grip in the front end. I mean weight transfer, not static weight.
About wheelbase, someone said me short in the front and long in the rear. Now you and other user say me the contrary. In my opinion the weight should be transfer in the front not rear, because I need more grip in the front end. I mean weight transfer, not static weight.
Static weight or weight transfer? Are you sure?
I think is the contrary, so I always moved in that direction, adding weight (transfer) to the front.
I think is the contrary, so I always moved in that direction, adding weight (transfer) to the front.
You'll notice some team driver setups (mainly carpet) use short front & long rear wheelbase, but this is to make the car easier to drive, not maximise steering.
#26
Ok understood but I don't really need more weight to the front under breaking, I need that during acceleration few weight will transfer to the rear, so is better having it already in the front (short front wheelbase). Anyway I can tune this aspect with droop too.
I'll fill my actual setup soon.
Thanks.
p.s my setup
http://i63.tinypic.com/2d2ewlt.jpg
I'll fill my actual setup soon.
Thanks.
p.s my setup
http://i63.tinypic.com/2d2ewlt.jpg
Last edited by maRRRco; 03-17-2017 at 12:12 AM.
#29
Hi guys this weekend I tried a new body, ltcr, with new setup settings. I used more straight steering rod so more ackermann effect according to xray manual. And more vertical shock. Now the car feels very responsive and direct with good corner entry and good steering in slow/medium speed corner but again understeers in fast corners. What I have to do? More lower roll center, soft spring? I don't know.
Go to shorter rear camber link (outer hole on bulkhead). That's the setup used 99% of the time and should give more high-speed steering.
Go to outer hole on front steering arms (for the steering tie-rod). That's the setup used 100% of the time.
If you still need HS steering, you can try:
- Lay the shocks down a couple of holes all round. This will make it more aggressive at speed.
- Make the rear track width wider, and/or the front narrower.
- Mount the body or wing further forwards.
#30
Yes, I know but my car is slower than other EP cars I've seen in my track. This is the point. I won't obtain the feeling of a nitro car with foam turns and tunable overdrive, but a sufficient amount of steering in fast corners.