IndyRC_Racer

iTrader: (9)

I believe that all of the Tamiya Eurotruck bodies REQUIRE the use of the long wheel base which is 257mm. If you don't use the long wheelbase, then the wheels WILL rub on the rear wheel arches which make the car almost impossible to drive.

Tamiya does make a few bodies such as the Porsche 911 GT3 that uses the short wheelbase of 251mm

Tdrake694

OK, thank you for the quick reply. I will go with long wheel base then. It came with a fat fox body

agentorange

iTrader: (3)

Hey not to bring it up again if already answered but I run on smooth medium traction surface. Question is is anyone using any traction compound and does it work well with these trucks. Just was curious to see what traction compound works the best on asphalt and if there any draw back to using it.

JCarr

iTrader: (2)

I had an esc go bad in my truck and noticed new trucks are coming with the hobbywing 1060 in them. Does that mean they are now legal to use as a replacement? I can't seem to find any updated rules about this change.

mrreet2001

iTrader: (9)

https://www.tamiyausa.com/tcs/rules/
Even if it wasn't in the rules, I support the use of that ESC for 2 reasons. Some kits ship with it and for safety reasons ( I don't like an ESCs without a LIPO cutoff).

JCarr

iTrader: (2)

Excellent, thank you so much.

JoshuaRC10

iTrader: (4)

always make sure to check the PDF for rules updates. It's updated much more quickly than the website. you can find the updated rule under article 16:

• 16.5 Must use the kit supplied Tamiya TBLE-02S/TBLE-04S ESC/THW-1060 Brushed Motor ESC (2-3S) Hobbywing OEM-Same as QUICRUN 1060 BRUSHED ESC (2-3S).

IndyRC_Racer

iTrader: (9)

The Tamiya TBLE-04S esc DOES support Lipo cuttoff. Please refer to the following link for more information (including a PDF manual that can be downloaded).
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/elect...hless-esc-04s/

Here is a link for the Tamiya TBLE-02s esc (no lipo cutoff)
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/elect...02s-brushless/

I have raced indoors with the TBLE-02 in Eurotruck with no issue. The key to using an ESC without Lipo cut-off is to pay attention to how long you are racing/practicing the vehicle between full charges. At most typical indoor electric races/tracks a fully charged lipo battery will not discharge enough to be an issue. However there may be instances where someone is racing for an extended amount of time or on at a very large track where over-discharging may become an issue. I would recommend that everyone run a "test" race time, then check to see how much energy is left in the battery (either using their charger or a lipo battery checker).

I would recommend anyone who is concerned with over-discharging their lipo batteries when using an ESC without low voltage cutoff that they purchase an external lipo low voltage alarm. They can be found easily online.

mrreet2001

iTrader: (9)

That doesn't help a forgot to charge situation or a situation where your truck has more drag then normal such as a bound drivetrain
I do run one, because it's asinine to run a Lipo without protection. With all of the "Safety" rules put into place by ROAR, I am surprised it's even legal to run a Lipo without protection.

Also the QUICRUN 1060 is a heck of a lot cheaper.

GerryH

iTrader: (26)

Tamiya TBLE-02s does have LVC. Never had a chance to test it. On a technical track, the brushed motor will overheat before you run out of battery capacity and on a big open track, you can run 20-25 mins on a 4600mah battery. So still way longer than needed.

Rastaracer

So much fun today, for never racing outdoor onroad asphalt, (only indoor carpet for me.) having 15 trucks in the class and qualifying 5th in the A, I battled back and forth for second and third ending a 1/10 sec behind second place.
Ripon rc speedway is a good spot with great racers and well kept race program.. funtimes.

IndyRC_Racer

iTrader: (9)

Here are the low voltage cut-offs for the ESC (Electronic Speed Control) that have been included with Tamiya Eurotruck kits.

- Tamiya TBLE-02s (https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/elect...02s-brushless/)
- Tamiya TBLE-04s (https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/elect...hless-esc-04s/)
Here is a good article that discusses using a Tamiya TBLE-04s (https://www.thercracer.com/2021/05/t...ontroller.html)

- Hobbywing THW 1060 BRUSHED ESC (2-3S) (https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/prod...c-2-3s-brushed)
Low Voltage cutoff for 2s is listed as 6.0v in the manual (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...03ENG.pdf?3141)

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Here is a quick chart based on information I found on the manufacturers websites & manuals

Tamiya TBLE-02s item# 45057
- LVC = 4.8v (does not support 6.0v LVC for Lipo batteries)
- Brushed & Sensored Brushless Motors

Tamiya TBLE-04s item# 45069
- Low LVC = 5.6v (Ni-CD, Ni-MH, Li-FE)
- High LVC - 6.2v (Works with Li-PO batteries)
- Brushed & Sensored Brushless Motors

Hobbywing THW 1060 Brushed ESC item# 30120201
- LVC = 6.0v
- Brushed motors ONLY

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While the TBLE-02s does have a LVC (low voltage cutoff) of 4.8v, it is only suitable for protecting Li-FE batteries.

The TCS Eurotruck racing that I have participated in the USA has always used Li-PO batteries and brushed motors. Since the heats/mains have only been 5 minutes long, over discharging batteries has not been an issue for any participant (that I am aware of). However you never want to over discharge Li-PO batteries as it could damage the battery and create a possible fire risk. To minimize this risk, any individual racer or track can could restrict the ESC being used in their racing to have the appropriate LVC for the battery chemistry that is being used.

I hope this information helps.

V8 Rumble

iTrader: (11)

Are diff fluids tcs legal? I see they are used but not specifying if it's at tcs events.

Thanks

mrreet2001

iTrader: (9)

This would be the "loophole" that allows it:
16.15 Any grease, or lube may be used to lubricate gears, or moving parts.

gigaplex

iTrader: (2)

Except diff oil is not a grease or lubricant. It has the opposite effect of lubrication.