Like Tree141Likes

Serpent Project 4-X

    Hide Wikipost
Old 11-21-2016, 06:09 AM   -   Wikipost
R/C Tech Forums Thread Wiki: Serpent Project 4-X
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been a member for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: WagwanBumba
Introduction
This is a wiki page for the new and very interesting concept 4-X from Serpent. This is wiki is meant to develop and grow as more is understood about the car.

Serpent's Product Page - http://www.serpent.com/product/400030
The 4-X Development Story - Here

Manual - Here

Spring Chart
SOFTEST
  • 401705 Spring white C4.4 4X (2)
  • 401706 Spring yellow C4.9 4X (2)
  • 401707 Spring orange C5.5 4X (2) = kit
  • 401708 Spring red C6.3 4X (2)
  • 401709 Spring pink C6.9 4X (2)
  • 401710 Spring blue C7.6 4X (2)
  • 401711 Spring purple C8.4 4X (2) = kit
  • 401712 Spring greenC9.5 4X (2)
  • 401713 Spring grey C10.9 4X (2)
  • 401714 Spring black C12 4X (2)
HARDEST

Build Tips

RCBuilds.net Build, tip guide and youtube video - http://www.rcbuilds.net/builds/onroa...nt-project-4x/
Heave + Roll Damper Build Tips
Pivot Ball Nut Tip

Setups



Setup Tips

Ride Height Adjustment
Adjusting tweak with roll damper
Usage of washer on lower arm
Tuning ARS


Option Parts List


Social Media

Facebook 4-X Group

Print Wikipost

Reply

Old 11-06-2016, 06:34 PM
  #61  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (155)
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lake Stevens , Wa
Posts: 2,960
Trader Rating: 155 (100%+)
Default

You really only need to remove the 2 bottom screws and remove 1 of the upper arm pins and you can pop the diff right out in about 2 minutes.
jeff jenkins sr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2016, 06:59 PM
  #62  
OVA
Tech Champion
iTrader: (80)
 
OVA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: WASHINGTON
Posts: 9,036
Trader Rating: 80 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by jeff jenkins sr View Post
You really only need to remove the 2 bottom screws and remove 1 of the upper arm pins and you can pop the diff right out in about 2 minutes.
Hey Senior
Two minutes to take the diff out...Hmmmm
mostly TC out there take 30 sec or less...just giving you a hard times
OVA is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2016, 07:53 PM
  #63  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 850
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by jeff jenkins sr View Post
You really only need to remove the 2 bottom screws and remove 1 of the upper arm pins and you can pop the diff right out in about 2 minutes.
I usually remove both of the upper arm pins

OVA - how about a belt change on a "normal" TC?
WagwanBumba is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2016, 08:30 PM
  #64  
OVA
Tech Champion
iTrader: (80)
 
OVA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: WASHINGTON
Posts: 9,036
Trader Rating: 80 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by WagwanBumba View Post
I usually remove both of the upper arm pins

OVA - how about a belt change on a "normal" TC?
Funny..I don't own normal TC ,mine is the A700 shaft ,A800 only have one screw the hold the belt pulley...."Get some of the"
OVA is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2016, 09:30 AM
  #65  
Tech Adept
 
Byronf1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Guatemala
Posts: 119
Default

Does anyone try it on asphalt yet? low grip.... any setup?
Byronf1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 12:54 AM
  #66  
Tech Regular
 
Holmenkollen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Sweden
Posts: 448
Default

Originally Posted by jeff jenkins sr View Post
You really only need to remove the 2 bottom screws and remove 1 of the upper arm pins and you can pop the diff right out in about 2 minutes.
There will come some new bits that will make it a bit easier and faster.
Holmenkollen is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 04:20 PM
  #67  
Tech Adept
 
Byronf1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Guatemala
Posts: 119
Default

Can someone explain me how to raise the car...
Connecting rods are those that are connectes to the upper arm correct?
I already put a 1mm spacer on the heave damper (main shock), on the rear I do not have that problem but on the forward is too low... on the H (high) position I got 7mm height... thanks for your support....
Byronf1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2016, 05:25 PM
  #68  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Schwarta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 431
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Byronf1 View Post
Can someone explain me how to raise the car...
Connecting rods are those that are connectes to the upper arm correct?
I already put a 1mm spacer on the heave damper (main shock), on the rear I do not have that problem but on the forward is too low... on the H (high) position I got 7mm height... thanks for your support....
So you've put a spacer on the front heave shock? You could shorten the connecting turnbuckles to the upper arm.
Schwarta is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2016, 07:54 AM
  #69  
Tech Adept
 
Byronf1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Guatemala
Posts: 119
Default

Originally Posted by Schwarta View Post
So you've put a spacer on the front heave shock? You could shorten the connecting turnbuckles to the upper arm.
Thanks that works!
Byronf1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 06:14 AM
  #70  
Tech Master
iTrader: (62)
 
BardSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: St. Michael, MN
Posts: 1,227
Trader Rating: 62 (98%+)
Default

This is such a great car for me and so I've decided to put a lot of work into getting a good set up. I mainly race on CRC black carpet in the US in the 17.5 class. I finally got to a really good setup that works on very high grip conditions, it's attached. Let me know how it works for you.
Attached Thumbnails Serpent Project 4-X-car.jpg  
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
BradSmith_4X Setup_1.pdf (452.3 KB, 245 views)
BardSmith is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 04:15 PM
  #71  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (10)
 
Jochim_18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: CALI
Posts: 2,399
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

Whooa I'm a confused just looking at the setup I guess till I get my car and play with it will enlighten me how to work with the car...

Originally Posted by BardSmith View Post
This is such a great car for me and so I've decided to put a lot of work into getting a good set up. I mainly race on CRC black carpet in the US in the 17.5 class. I finally got to a really good setup that works on very high grip conditions, it's attached. Let me know how it works for you.
Jochim_18 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2016, 11:49 PM
  #72  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 850
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by BardSmith View Post
This is such a great car for me and so I've decided to put a lot of work into getting a good set up. I mainly race on CRC black carpet in the US in the 17.5 class. I finally got to a really good setup that works on very high grip conditions, it's attached. Let me know how it works for you.
Does the removal of the brace not affect the torsional flex of the car?

I was thinking of doing the same, but using loads of washers to replace the brace
WagwanBumba is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2016, 12:30 AM
  #73  
Tech Master
iTrader: (62)
 
BardSmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: St. Michael, MN
Posts: 1,227
Trader Rating: 62 (98%+)
Default

You can add two 3mm shims (4 total) to compensate or install the top deck. I actually chose to do both because I want to get it as stiff as possible.
Attached Thumbnails Serpent Project 4-X-1479454919420841989364.jpg  

Last edited by BardSmith; 11-18-2016 at 12:42 AM.
BardSmith is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2016, 01:10 AM
  #74  
Tech Regular
 
Holmenkollen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Sweden
Posts: 448
Default

Originally Posted by BardSmith View Post
This is such a great car for me and so I've decided to put a lot of work into getting a good set up. I mainly race on CRC black carpet in the US in the 17.5 class. I finally got to a really good setup that works on very high grip conditions, it's attached. Let me know how it works for you.
What´s the reason for very high roll centers? I would think lower roll centers would be better for high grip situations.
Holmenkollen is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2016, 03:21 AM
  #75  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Schwarta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 431
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by BardSmith View Post
This is such a great car for me and so I've decided to put a lot of work into getting a good set up. I mainly race on CRC black carpet in the US in the 17.5 class. I finally got to a really good setup that works on very high grip conditions, it's attached. Let me know how it works for you.
Is your droop settings orh or measured like the setup sheet?
Schwarta is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service