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Old 02-26-2019, 08:36 AM
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Gravity is the spec tire for the Motiv series. Aside from that, you can run anything else for regular club races. The pit tires are a little faster (Pit Shimizu, TCS, CRC)

Make sure to spend a lot of time breaking/scrubbing in the Gravity tires.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan

Make sure to spend a lot of time breaking/scrubbing in the Gravity tires.
you need this to do the job !

http://www.rcmart.com/tire-sander-wh...l?cPath=35_292
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Originally Posted by Dan
Gravity is the spec tire for the Motiv series. Aside from that, you can run anything else for regular club races. The pit tires are a little faster (Pit Shimizu, TCS, CRC)

Make sure to spend a lot of time breaking/scrubbing in the Gravity tires.
Ah, got it. Might have a set of the Pit Shimzu from last summer I didn’t use. I’ll start with gluing sidewall. See what improvement get from that.
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:58 AM
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Been running my F1 now lots of batteries and having a blast! So awesome to drive.
but I have the problem that the car tends to break out while breaking into tight rurns. What can I do? I don't see any big mistakes or tweaks in the chassis...
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:26 AM
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Lighten up on brake force on the radio or ESC. Or start using drag brake with a combination of light brake force (thats what I do.) I'm a fairly heavy drag brake user in F1.
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So that's normal, hehe. Ok that's what I thought.
how much drag du you run?
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:16 PM
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Rotor strength and ESC varies, you'll need to find what is right for you. I run a Hobbywing XR10 stock spec with 25.5 motor. I run anywhere from 30-40% drag brake typically on indoor carpet tracks. I've seen people run more or less.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by man1ac
Been running my F1 now lots of batteries and having a blast! So awesome to drive.
but I have the problem that the car tends to break out while breaking into tight rurns. What can I do? I don't see any big mistakes or tweaks in the chassis...
I run my brakes as low as 30-40% too. The car has no brakes at low speeds but at high speeds it will stop.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
Rotor strength and ESC varies, you'll need to find what is right for you. I run a Hobbywing XR10 stock spec with 25.5 motor. I run anywhere from 30-40% drag brake typically on indoor carpet tracks. I've seen people run more or less.
I’ve yet to try drag brake on mine. Just switched to that Hobbywing esc back in late September when I first thought I was going to be able to get to WC. That didn’t happen till 2 weeks ago.
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Old 02-26-2019, 01:23 PM
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I run about 15% of Drag, but dunno if thats okay. I get around the track, though (About 1s slower than with my TC7 on a small 10s Laptime black carpet track, so not that bad)
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by man1ac
Been running my F1 now lots of batteries and having a blast! So awesome to drive.
but I have the problem that the car tends to break out while breaking into tight rurns. What can I do? I don't see any big mistakes or tweaks in the chassis...
Stock front wing and PF wing (others too depending) can be soft and scrub the track. The kit wing is bad for this and grabs sometimes but but even scraping along as you brake into a corner (nose dives and rear lifts) , just like someone pulled the e brake! Check underside of front wing edges, soft front wings don't break but can cause funny handling. If it's scrubbing shim up or find a new wing that has higher wing edges to keep it from dragging.
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We switched to canam F1 not long ago, and with the spec 21.5 and gearing, we run no drag brake and relatively low brakes. The car slows down very well, and they are slow enough on the top end that they don't need much brakes on a medium to small carpet track, crc black.
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Okay, I like the sounds my keyboard makes when I type, so I'll try to keep it short.

Bought and built my F6 a while ago, and finally got a chance to run it. I am pretty sure I built to kit set up but will check that to be sure. I bought a couple different side springs but didnt start changing them as I really have no idea how to set up a pan car. Running Gravity RC tires with no prep work. This thing is CONSTANTLY trying to swap ends. I cannot keep the rear end behind the car in corners. I have played with dual rates, servo speed and travel. After getting home I did think about the amount of oil on the side tubes. I also have all the parts to set it up for a vertical servo.

My 12R6 handles amazing, but I attribute that to foam tires.

Where do I start with gaining a little more side bite in the rear.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:19 PM
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Got a question with my F6 and would like to ask for opinions. I'm running on CRC Black carpet, quite a small indoor track, F6 is equipped with a DIY rear spool. Yet I find the car understeer so much! Should it be right? I thought the rear spool would make the rear of the car swinging faster during corner entry. Am I right?
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Old 02-27-2019, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy
Okay, I like the sounds my keyboard makes when I type, so I'll try to keep it short.

Bought and built my F6 a while ago, and finally got a chance to run it. I am pretty sure I built to kit set up but will check that to be sure. I bought a couple different side springs but didnt start changing them as I really have no idea how to set up a pan car. Running Gravity RC tires with no prep work. This thing is CONSTANTLY trying to swap ends. I cannot keep the rear end behind the car in corners. I have played with dual rates, servo speed and travel. After getting home I did think about the amount of oil on the side tubes. I also have all the parts to set it up for a vertical servo.

My 12R6 handles amazing, but I attribute that to foam tires.

Where do I start with gaining a little more side bite in the rear.
I am really not an expert, but I'd try to make the rear diff as smooth as possible. If it is, tighten it an 1/8th turn and test. Next step would be the change the rear shock and spring. I run (not 100% sure) 40wt and 15lb spring.
And the most inprtimpo part: tires. I run Volante Carpet tires and I really can't say I can't push through corners....
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