331LikesTeam Associated F1
11-05-2018, 09:46 AM
#976
Tech Adept
looking for some help i got my f1 used try to race it for the first time the car never had traction all day. it felt like it was floating on top of the track. i dont know the setup on the car. i did not put the car together. so i know nothing about the car. start over from scrach.
11-05-2018, 10:27 AM
#977
What type of track, ie., asphalt, concrete, gray carpet, black carpet...?? What tires are you running? Was it spinning out (have front traction - 0 rear traction) or was it like on ice (0 traction front/rear)??
And, maybe not start from scratch, but anytime I pick up a used car I check the bearings first thing, and things like free movement of the suspension/steering assembly, etc..
The F6 is a good chassis, as are most of the current crop of R/C F1's - unless it was abused it should be fine.
NINJA edit - went back up a few posts and saw you are on CRC black carpet.
To try first:
Run the CRC tires.
Soft front springs (on the kingpins).
Soft - medium side springs.
Firm(er) shock spring.
Glue (CA) the front sidewalls - DON'T do the rears
(Try) 3k - 10k lube in the damper tubes, ~3.5mm or so ride height front, little higher in the back (say 3.8 to maybe 4mm)
Also, throw the Associated front wing in the trash, get a Montech or Tamiya stiff front wing... I imagine you have been hitting the boards (no offense meant) and the PF and Associated wings bend very easily, and will then drag (check under your front wing on the edge, prob covered will black goo). AE rear wing is fine.
1 more thing, set the car to stock caster and go from there. Anyway, a few things to try - I would also have a local help you out, most will as they just want people to race with.
And, maybe not start from scratch, but anytime I pick up a used car I check the bearings first thing, and things like free movement of the suspension/steering assembly, etc..
The F6 is a good chassis, as are most of the current crop of R/C F1's - unless it was abused it should be fine.
NINJA edit - went back up a few posts and saw you are on CRC black carpet.
To try first:
Run the CRC tires.
Soft front springs (on the kingpins).
Soft - medium side springs.
Firm(er) shock spring.
Glue (CA) the front sidewalls - DON'T do the rears
(Try) 3k - 10k lube in the damper tubes, ~3.5mm or so ride height front, little higher in the back (say 3.8 to maybe 4mm)
Also, throw the Associated front wing in the trash, get a Montech or Tamiya stiff front wing... I imagine you have been hitting the boards (no offense meant) and the PF and Associated wings bend very easily, and will then drag (check under your front wing on the edge, prob covered will black goo). AE rear wing is fine.
1 more thing, set the car to stock caster and go from there. Anyway, a few things to try - I would also have a local help you out, most will as they just want people to race with.
11-05-2018, 12:57 PM
#978
Tech Adept
What type of track, ie., asphalt, concrete, gray carpet, black carpet...?? What tires are you running? Was it spinning out (have front traction - 0 rear traction) or was it like on ice (0 traction front/rear)??
And, maybe not start from scratch, but anytime I pick up a used car I check the bearings first thing, and things like free movement of the suspension/steering assembly, etc..
The F6 is a good chassis, as are most of the current crop of R/C F1's - unless it was abused it should be fine.
NINJA edit - went back up a few posts and saw you are on CRC black carpet.
To try first:
Run the CRC tires.
Soft front springs (on the kingpins).
Soft - medium side springs.
Firm(er) shock spring.
Glue (CA) the front sidewalls - DON'T do the rears
(Try) 3k - 10k lube in the damper tubes, ~3.5mm or so ride height front, little higher in the back (say 3.8 to maybe 4mm)
Also, throw the Associated front wing in the trash, get a Montech or Tamiya stiff front wing... I imagine you have been hitting the boards (no offense meant) and the PF and Associated wings bend very easily, and will then drag (check under your front wing on the edge, prob covered will black goo). AE rear wing is fine.
1 more thing, set the car to stock caster and go from there. Anyway, a few things to try - I would also have a local help you out, most will as they just want people to race with.
And, maybe not start from scratch, but anytime I pick up a used car I check the bearings first thing, and things like free movement of the suspension/steering assembly, etc..
The F6 is a good chassis, as are most of the current crop of R/C F1's - unless it was abused it should be fine.
NINJA edit - went back up a few posts and saw you are on CRC black carpet.
To try first:
Run the CRC tires.
Soft front springs (on the kingpins).
Soft - medium side springs.
Firm(er) shock spring.
Glue (CA) the front sidewalls - DON'T do the rears
(Try) 3k - 10k lube in the damper tubes, ~3.5mm or so ride height front, little higher in the back (say 3.8 to maybe 4mm)
Also, throw the Associated front wing in the trash, get a Montech or Tamiya stiff front wing... I imagine you have been hitting the boards (no offense meant) and the PF and Associated wings bend very easily, and will then drag (check under your front wing on the edge, prob covered will black goo). AE rear wing is fine.
1 more thing, set the car to stock caster and go from there. Anyway, a few things to try - I would also have a local help you out, most will as they just want people to race with.
11-05-2018, 01:07 PM
#979
What I would try next time your at the track; (1) CRC tires, (2) soft front springs. Tighten up your diff as well, most are running locked diff's on black carpet. Definitely check your tires though... for example, if your running Ride GR tires they just won't work. You'll have waaaay too much front traction and zero rear grip - I ran those the first time I was on black carpet. The right tire is 70-80% of the battle.
11-05-2018, 02:12 PM
#980
Tech Apprentice
looking for some help i got my f1 used try to race it for the first time the car never had traction all day. it felt like it was floating on top of the track. i dont know the setup on the car. i did not put the car together. so i know nothing about the car. start over from scrach.
11-05-2018, 02:37 PM
#981
Tech Adept
You can go softer on the side and front springs, redo side tubes, I recommend 7-10k, or loosen the ball diff/lighter gear diff oil/take the locked axle out if there is one on the car. The only other thing I would check is to make sure the tires are still glued on the rims, some brands have issues with that.
11-19-2018, 08:12 AM
#985
Once that ball pops out its pretty much done. Will pop out easier each little tap you make. Just replace with new ball and socket and your good. Replaced mine with steel ball but the same issue if it gets popped out. Those cups just seem to get damaged when it happens.
11-19-2018, 01:47 PM
#986
11-22-2018, 01:47 PM
#989
I changed to B6 steel balls and have a set of new cups and o-rings as spare. So if I‘d get a problem, I‘d use new cups and o-rings.
Up to now I didn‘t need to change anything but have to say just raced outdoor on asphalt on a nice track with low curbs and grass in between - so no walls or anything hard to hit there
11-22-2018, 03:29 PM
#990
so what dod you do, when it‘s worn? Will you have to buy a new arm?
I changed to B6 steel balls and have a set of new cups and o-rings as spare. So if I‘d get a problem, I‘d use new cups and o-rings.
Up to now I didn‘t need to change anything but have to say just raced outdoor on asphalt on a nice track with low curbs and grass in between - so no walls or anything hard to hit there
