Team Associated F1
#751
#752

I was quite interested in this setup as well as I very nearly bought the car and I'm still in need of a new F1. I'm finding it very difficult to decide however. My dream F1 would be a Mugen assuming it's designed with the same forward thinking that went into the MTC1.
#754
Tech Master
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I really wish AE would give out some info on what they have planned when a car comes out. What are all the holes on the sides of the chassis for? Same with the B64D, lots of holes in the chassis with no explanation. I want options.
#755

Too much weight forward, too much steering. Servo forward works better on low grip. Inline battery makes a slight difference on very technical tracks. I like transverse and back as it helps keep the rear wheels down. As long as I get the damper lube right and glue the front tires, the car is hard to beat on black carpet. My car is more likely to pick up a front inside wheel if I come in too hot, then it might pick up a rear wheel. Once I see two wheels up it's either steer out of it or a triple spin somersault. The front tire glue cures most of that. Stiffer sidewalls on the tires would be nice.
#756
Tech Apprentice

Too much weight forward, too much steering. Servo forward works better on low grip. Inline battery makes a slight difference on very technical tracks. I like transverse and back as it helps keep the rear wheels down. As long as I get the damper lube right and glue the front tires, the car is hard to beat on black carpet. My car is more likely to pick up a front inside wheel if I come in too hot, then it might pick up a rear wheel. Once I see two wheels up it's either steer out of it or a triple spin somersault. The front tire glue cures most of that. Stiffer sidewalls on the tires would be nice.
#758

Parts car is now built, JConcepts Layla and some other gear to make an F1 LMP car to compete in a locked timing motor series. I bit the bullet and ordered the conversion kit from JConcepts. It should be here early next week. Something similar to F1, but full bodied to play around with.
#759
Tech Fanatic
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New Exotek Racing adjustable front camber arm set and rear traction plate set for RC10F6 :: LiveRC.com - R/C Car News, Pictures, Videos, and More
So I don't even have an F6, I run the X1, but I saw this and I'm just wondering, has anyone made this style of front suspension work on a pan car that people are willing to attest to??
I don't like the link style front end like that. Been out of the loop for a while though (racin big cars) and it looks like the old reflex front end, and I never ever liked those cars, gimme a dynamic strut 10L over a reflex any day. Now I'm dating myself with that reference, but I'm not sure that changes. Old carpet and foams vs new carpet and rubber, I'm not sure traction levels are that much different than 2001.
But that's what I'm asking, I have seen plenty of people chase exotek f1 cars and it reminds me of chasing a link front ended pan car. Change camber and caster changes, I think there is weird camber gain and stuff I probably don't feel like figuring out. I have always seen guys chasing the two tie rod upper link cars. Tell me I'm wrong, it's cool.
So I don't even have an F6, I run the X1, but I saw this and I'm just wondering, has anyone made this style of front suspension work on a pan car that people are willing to attest to??
I don't like the link style front end like that. Been out of the loop for a while though (racin big cars) and it looks like the old reflex front end, and I never ever liked those cars, gimme a dynamic strut 10L over a reflex any day. Now I'm dating myself with that reference, but I'm not sure that changes. Old carpet and foams vs new carpet and rubber, I'm not sure traction levels are that much different than 2001.
But that's what I'm asking, I have seen plenty of people chase exotek f1 cars and it reminds me of chasing a link front ended pan car. Change camber and caster changes, I think there is weird camber gain and stuff I probably don't feel like figuring out. I have always seen guys chasing the two tie rod upper link cars. Tell me I'm wrong, it's cool.
#760
Tech Addict
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The biggest advantage of the Exotek front arms is the ability to accurately set front camber and caster independently and get the settings EXACTLY where you want them. It's also super strong and can take massive abuse compared to the stock parts.
I've run this front end on a Tamiya F103, F104, Exotek F1R, F1R2, and F1R3. Works great.
Just my .$02.
I've run this front end on a Tamiya F103, F104, Exotek F1R, F1R2, and F1R3. Works great.
Just my .$02.
#762
Tech Fanatic
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The biggest advantage of the Exotek front arms is the ability to accurately set front camber and caster independently and get the settings EXACTLY where you want them. It's also super strong and can take massive abuse compared to the stock parts.
I've run this front end on a Tamiya F103, F104, Exotek F1R, F1R2, and F1R3. Works great.
Just my .$02.
I've run this front end on a Tamiya F103, F104, Exotek F1R, F1R2, and F1R3. Works great.
Just my .$02.
I will still prefer the non-link upper arms, but I'll remember some folks do like them when I'm working with one
#763

The biggest advantage to link front end is the ability to have reactive castor. I have a car with link front end (fenix) I have been playing with the reactive castor a lot and it is great. You don't loose high speed stability but you gain a ton of off power.
The exotek setup is nice but I think it would be better if they used a ball style kingpin. You could easily do this using awesomatix ball cups and Lunsford turnbuckles. You really wouldn't even need to purchase the exo kit.
The exotek setup is nice but I think it would be better if they used a ball style kingpin. You could easily do this using awesomatix ball cups and Lunsford turnbuckles. You really wouldn't even need to purchase the exo kit.
#764
Tech Apprentice

If using the Exotek upper suspension arms, how to set the caster then?
#765
Tech Regular

The biggest advantage to link front end is the ability to have reactive castor. I have a car with link front end (fenix) I have been playing with the reactive castor a lot and it is great. You don't loose high speed stability but you gain a ton of off power.
The exotek setup is nice but I think it would be better if they used a ball style kingpin. You could easily do this using awesomatix ball cups and Lunsford turnbuckles. You really wouldn't even need to purchase the exo kit.
The exotek setup is nice but I think it would be better if they used a ball style kingpin. You could easily do this using awesomatix ball cups and Lunsford turnbuckles. You really wouldn't even need to purchase the exo kit.