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Old 12-16-2005, 01:47 PM   #1
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Default ROAR approves Batteries..

GP GPSCHC Green w/Orange Band Shrink 10/1/2005
GP GP370SCHR Rainbow Shrink 10/1/2005
IB SC-3700UP White, Blue & Silver VTEC Shrink 10/1/2005
IB SC-3800 Shaded Blue Intellect 3800 Shrink 10/1/2005
IB SC-3600 Shaded Blue Intellect 3600 Shrink 10/1/2005
IB SC-3800UP White, Blue & Silver VTEC Shrink 10/1/2005
IB X3800IB Yokomo Lt. Blue w/Yellow X Shrink 10/1/2005
IB EP3800ESP Epic Black w/Red & White Bands Shrink 10/1/2005
IP IP3800SC Red w/White & Silver Shrink 10/1/2005
SANYO RC-3600HV Light Red Shrink 10/1/2005

No more questions. Just race.
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:43 AM   #2
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YAYA IP's are aproved.. there the best out there right now.. they are kickin the pants off the IB's here right now..The IB's seem to be weak and do not last long at all.. The Ip's evenolder then the IB's are still runnin stronger..
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YAYA IP's are aproved.. there the best out there right now.. they are kickin the pants off the IB's here right now..The IB's seem to be weak and do not last long at all.. The Ip's evenolder then the IB's are still runnin stronger..

huh they lose evry race on a turbo matcher? do numbers lie?
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You must be getting the elite IP cells.....by the 4th run, every pack I have had dropped 30+ seconds in runtime and the voltage went down......IR stayed about the same....

IB stuff seems to last just fine for me......and my team guys.

The key with IB and GP stuff is to follow a strict charge and discharge method.....and never sway from it....

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The key with IB and GP stuff is to follow a strict charge and discharge method.....and never sway from it....

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Good advice for any battery. I remember the voodoo surrounding 1500 and 1700 cells back in the day. Very funny.
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What about LIPO's??
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:07 PM   #7
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LiPos are far off in my opinion, mainly because they do not conform to the SUB C size requirement.....until they do, I don't see them becoming legal......Pretty much every onroad car would have to be redesigned because of the weight and size difference.....


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Old 12-18-2005, 01:25 PM   #8
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huh they lose evry race on a turbo matcher? do numbers lie?

I know what i see on the track... The numbers are only for reference when i buy them.. after, its how they perform in a race.. Ip's are the dominant cell where i race.. I followed the very stricked method of care with my IB's.

In all honesty i picked up two 3700 packs for practice.. they were new, and they pulled harder to me then the IB's.. The IP's pull the hardest of all..

If you have not put one in your car, and your just going off of what you read somewhere your missing out..Because they are stonger and longer lasting cells.. If you have not put them both on a turbo matcher please dont make comments either.. Ive seen how an Ib case looks on the matcher compared to the IP's..Im not sure where you get your statement from..

On a side note.. had the IP's been legal at Cleveland, and the up comming birds we would see how good they really are.... I heard they did well at the vegas race, and they are legal from what i hear for the novak race..
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:36 PM   #9
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Did "IP' conform to the size (I know this was initially the problem) or did ROAR just say....looks like a battery....its round...should be legal?

I dont understand but conrats to IP I guess?
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LOL... Its round and it holds a charge.... good one Ernie!!

Or....

Cells submitted for approval shall measure 43.0mm in an overall nominal length which includes the center positive button. Individual cells shall be constructed such that the overall length resulting from the combination of charging and/or conditioning never exceeds 44.0mm. This may be verified at competition technical inspections/checks.
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Where did they do well in Vegas?? The only driver of note who used them really was Chris Tosolini.....he switched to IBs during qualifying because he kept dumping....

He went back to IPs in the 1/12th scale main......and dumped....

GP3700 stuff was horrid at cleveland.....they didn't win a single A main that I am aware of....the best they did was Todd Hodge in 1/12th.....and he DUMPED....



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I've never seen a IP cell that ever measured 43mm.....maybe 43.5.....

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Dawn....the only problem I have with this....is that it is the same "STUPID" ruling ROAR used when the legalized the GP cells. Its like forget about the thousands that are out there (which run better) and will still be legal and do not meet the specs.....but we will make ALL of them legal with the HOPE that they will conform to the rules....sounds like the brushless rules....lol

This is a nightmare for techs at any race....since all anyone can go by (unless you want to run a 24 hour race teching everythng) is the SHRINK WRAP!

Can I build a motor and have it approved with the promise to ROAR...that I will make it legal at a later date or after the first 3 batches....

I am bitching....yes but not really at you.....

I and I think a LOT OF PEOPLE are LOOKING FOR SOME CONSISTENCY in the rules....in my opinion...this is not going to accomplish this....

Good Luck staying on...and I hope Mike Q.....can make a difference
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EP for president!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm truly confused by the word "nominal" when it comes to a measurement Either way I have some IB's and the new GP's and only 2 ROAR races a year....Let's race!!!
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