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Old 12-09-2005, 11:06 AM   #1
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Here is the info that some maybe looking for on the IB4200. We were asked by IB not to release any info on the cell until Monday but guess some companies wanted to get the scoop first.

The IB4200 is the same size as the IB3800 and weighs about the same or 1 gram more than the 3800s.

Based on the samples we have gotten the specs will be 430+ , 1.20+ with IR of 1.7-2.0 @ 35 amps.

So for the racers who think that extra capacity is needed they can buy the new 4200s and for those who have no capacity related issues the IB3600 - IB3800s will be fine and will be the cells legal for most big races and ROAR sanctioned events.

We expect our first shipment to be matched up just before Christmas or the week after.

On another note SMCs online shop is now open. We have opened this shop to allow racers to buy our products when they have a tough time finding them locally. We strongly reccomend that you give your local track or shop the chance to sell you our products as they are able to offer them at the same price listed on our site and may have them in stock.
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Based on the samples we have gotten the specs will be 430+ , 1.20+ with IR of 1.7-2.0 @ 35 amps.
So what are the "good" cells going to be? Dumas' Team Brood Matched by SMC pack that he won the main with at Cleveland was all in the 430-440 range and 1.20X+ voltage. Seams like the IB3800 is already a 4200 or are these new cells going todo the same thing the original IB 3800 did and all of a sudden gain 20 secs of runtime @35 and a ton of voltage?
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The IB3800s are typically 390-420 that is where the majority of the cells fit in. The IB4200 will be 430+ atleast that is what we see with the sample cells we will have more info once we get our first production shipment. The IB3800 never really gained any runtime when it was being upgraded. IB worked hard on the voltage curve and based on what they have acheived I doubt that they will be able to improve by a big margin but then again I would of never thought that we would see 1.20+ cells at 35 amps.
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Thank God, I almost buy SMC IB3800 again
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All I can say is WOW!!!
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Danny,

For Oval racing The ARCOR battery rule (for 19T and Mod) is as follows:
No mah limit but
1. Only Sub-C cells batteries will be used in all ARCOR competition. Sub-C will be based on the industry standard length of 43mm with a plus or minus factor of 1mm in length, measured from the battery button (+) to the negative end (-). Circumference shall be 23mm, measured with shrink wrap with a plus or minus factor of 0.70mm.

Do the 4200's meet these rules ??
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here we go agian with new batts let the battery war begin again
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Erock,

From Danny's post: "The IB4200 is the same size as the IB3800 and weighs about the same or 1 gram more than the 3800s."

So that would be a yes.
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WOW... this is a HUGE step in the RTR market...

my frist car back in 91 we had 1200mah packs i was getting 12 min with a Mabuchi driven tamiya now with the 4200mah battery the common person can just buy one of those and run a mabuchi driven tamiya for 40-50min...

i can't wait for the price of IB3800's to drop since the IB4200's are on the way out.

Thanks for the Info!!
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here we go agian with new batts let the battery war begin again
When did it end?
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For Oval racing The ARCOR battery rule (for 19T and Mod) is as follows:
No mah limit but
1. Only Sub-C cells batteries will be used in all ARCOR competition. Sub-C will be based on the industry standard length of 43mm with a plus or minus factor of 1mm in length, measured from the battery button (+) to the negative end (-). Circumference shall be 23mm, measured with shrink wrap with a plus or minus factor of 0.70mm.

Do the 4200's meet these rules ??
Yes they meet these rules as the 4200 is the exact same size as the 3800.
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Actually the IB4200s are more expensive than the IB3800s so expect to pay more for 4200s. For those who have no battery rules and think that the extra 30 seconds or so of capacity is needed then this cell is for you. Based from what we saw in Cleveland capacity is really not an issue at the moment because most drivers were coming back with 20-40 seconds of runtime in mod with IB3800s.
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When did it end?
I don't think that it will ever end as thats why the RTR nitro market is getting bigger all the time and excpet for really big races the attendance it down at most of the electric places I run at. Yes we have tracks that are the exception but on the average. All the places around us that run nitro are getting larger.

It is getting out of hand with the new batteries and even if you try not to get them if you want to keep up you need to have them because the voltage and runtimes are so much better.
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When did it end?
When SMC made LiPo or fuel cell batts that last 24 hr

I guess this is IB retaliation against Li Po batts.
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Damn!! 4200mAh!!

I'm still running my 3300's (SMC GP3300's 35A,) they still work like a charm, but I think these will be making a home in my FK05 very soon.
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