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Old 12-10-2005, 04:21 PM   #61
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Ted sorry I forgot about your packs at Cleveland. Just had so much going on and when I saw your name pop up on the result pages it made me remember so I got Paul to bring you some packs ASAP.

Man 7.24 never thought we would be seeing crazy numbers like these but looks like IB has got it figured out.
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No problem, it wasn't one of my best weekends. That track needed way too much driving skill for this old guy.....lol. My car was fast though!

The pack that was 7.24 came right out of my local hobby shop (Larry's) so people can't complain about not being able to buy really good SMC packs at their local shop! Good job!

Dieter told me he cycled a single pack fifteen times and it was better after all those cycles then we he started. Lot's of guys only used one pack all weekend at Cleveland.

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thanks danny..Mr. Flack that lil bit of info helped out a lot!
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I find it ammusing that people complain about the 4200 coming out, just because its coming out doesnt mean you need to buy it. Like Danny said if you do 8min races, like in asia, will it be useful.

A friend lent me a good IB3800 pack, I had 800mah at 20amps left in the pack after the run with a 7x1 on a fast track. I had another 7x1 that could have drained the pack out some more but the heat for my speedy was too much and it kept thermalling
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:16 AM   #64
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Would it better to invest in the new 4200 or just wait for the new li poly batts? These things will probably be really long to charge even at high amps.
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:30 AM   #65
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There was a big oval race in Cinnci this week. I heard comments that some had a new batch or new version of the IB3800's that had even higher voltages than before. Can you confirm ?
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:36 AM   #66
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With the development going on, it seems as itīs smarter to wait as long as possible and only buy whatīs needed in a short term.
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:36 AM   #67
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Would it better to invest in the new 4200 or just wait for the new li poly batts? These things will probably be really long to charge even at high amps.
The 4200s won't take allot longer to charge than the 3800s were only talking an extra 30 seconds or so of runtime which means an extra 3-4 minutes to charge.
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There was a big oval race in Cinnci this week. I heard comments that some had a new batch or new version of the IB3800's that had even higher voltages than before. Can you confirm ?
Got to love all these rumours. The last 5-6 shipments that we have recieved have been pretty much the same with many great cells in each batch. Intellect has been working on the 4200 so the 3800 has been left alone as it's already the best performing cell.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:41 PM   #69
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Hey Danny, in 1/12th scale stock I always tend to get fade with my IB3800s (usually around 3 min in and then the punch is about the same for the last 5 min.), it seems all the 1/12th scale racers do so I'm assuming it's normal. Do you think the 4200s with longer runtime will take longer to fade or is it not really going to matter what battery I use? I'm guessing it's more related to the voltage curve than it is runtime...

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many feel the fade id due to motor overheating rather then batteries getting soft. most report having to step down 1 tooth from where they were with gp cells
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Hey Danny, in 1/12th scale stock I always tend to get fade with my IB3800s (usually around 3 min in and then the punch is about the same for the last 5 min.), it seems all the 1/12th scale racers do so I'm assuming it's normal. Do you think the 4200s with longer runtime will take longer to fade or is it not really going to matter what battery I use? I'm guessing it's more related to the voltage curve than it is runtime...

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I was looking at the laptimes from the Cleveland race and the times seemed very consistent from start to finish. The mod times looked real consistent as well so if the cells would be the reason for the fading you would think it would show up even more in mod.

If the problem is the cell then with 4200s you would start to feel the fade at the 3 minute and 30 second mark.
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The 4200s won't take allot longer to charge than the 3800s were only talking an extra 30 seconds or so of runtime which means an extra 3-4 minutes to charge.
I see. Its because when I used 3300 charge time was already 35 min at 5 amps. Then when I used 3800 charge time was 45 min at 6 amps. So I'm thinking it would take almost an hour to charge this one. Thats almost half a day just to charge my set. I was hearing good things about high capacity lipo charging less than 30 mins.
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Danny- when do you think that the capacity will start to level off? Obviously, IB has been making huge gains, and I really thought that 3800mAh was the end of the road. Do you think that NiMH will ever surpass LiPo's (isn't Orion's LiPo 4200mAh?), and if so, when?
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Danny- when do you think that the capacity will start to level off? Obviously, IB has been making huge gains, and I really thought that 3800mAh was the end of the road. Do you think that NiMH will ever surpass LiPo's (isn't Orion's LiPo 4200mAh?), and if so, when?
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If ROAR allows a longer cell I wouldn't be surprised to see 4500 in the near future. If they keep the cells at 43mm I would assume that we could see 4500 but it will take more time.

As far as LiPos go they can't hold up to the high drain we submit cells to for as long as the NiMh. The voltage curve isn't as flat as the current NiMh.
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When SMC IB4200 available in market ?
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