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Old 11-05-2002, 07:36 PM   #1
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Default Green Machine Pro 3 vs P2k2 Pro

Hey.... I royally screwed up my Green Machine Pro 3 and I want to know whether I should replace it with a new one or buy a P2K2 Pro instead.

What are the specs on each one..
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Old 11-05-2002, 10:14 PM   #2
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Go to the Team Trinity website. They have a comparison chart with all the specs of each motor.

If you do buy a P2K2, let me know what the difference in your lap times, etc., between the two motors. I currently have several P2K2's, but quite a few guys at the track have GM3's. I can't get a straight answer which motor is better/faster/gearing/etc.

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Old 11-06-2002, 12:58 PM   #3
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Get a hellfire/orion black can motor. They are really pretty fast. great for buggy and 4wd and truck and....... It makes my truck really fast.
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humm. i've seen a lot more p2k2's at the track than gm3's. however, the gm3's seem to be some of the fastest guys out there. the green machines seem to be very tempermental. some are dogs, and others rip. i had a good one that i just cut through the copper on. now, i am running the orion core that pitcrew referred to. mine seems to run exceptionally well. these motors, like the mvp's, seem to run very hot even when geared correctly. as a result, i go through brushes faster than i would like. just my 2 cents.
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Arrow differential tech.

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Old 11-06-2002, 02:03 PM   #6
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They do get really hot, however, I have not seen ANY burning of the comm OR of the brushes. I do take good care of my motors, all of which I have personally tuned to be very fast. Most of the time when I cut the comm, I just clean up the brushes with a comm stick. The surface is usually a little dark but it comes right off. I am amazed that the can get so hot, yet the armature doesn't seem to show signs of overheating. Maybe that is why they called the thing a HELLFIRE
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Tha MVP can be cooled down some by using a narrow cut brush set-up and it's still blistering fast.

I would personally get the P2K2 over the GM3. Many of the drivers here are tossing them for other motors because they stop working. I've seen smoke coming out of some of them on the track, and it was geared correctly.

Is there another motor that your LHS carries? What about the new Monster Stock motor?
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What you do is....look through all of the GM3s in you LHS, pick the one with the best numbers, and go from there.

That or, buy the integy RPM version for wide open tracks where you need top end, or buy the Torque version for tighter tracks. I think it may be the fastest stock motor available....this thing is a rocket. Oh, and its name is Integy Matrix V10, i guess that will help if you want to buy one.
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green machine is top end rpm
p2k2 is bottoms end torque and mid range
i have both and both go well but it depends on where you race
for overall i would go for an mvp matrix
they are unbelievably fast
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yup, i've heard good things about the matrix as well.
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From what I've seen the P2K2 is in the middle of the GM3 and the original P2K and MVP...
The P2K2 seems to have a good amount of speed, not quite as much as the GM3, but also has good bottom end grunt, but again not as much as the P2K and MVP.....

Just my 2 cents....
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I have been running the Core Stock Dyno Tuned lately too, and it is a very good motor, but I have noticed it becomes a little flat at the end of the run compared to my previous Reedy MVP.....
Anyone got any thoughts?
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The motor gets HOT. When wire gets hot its resistance goes up. So the motor windings have more resistance. Also, I believe that magnets lose some of their strenght when they are hot.

More resistance = less current going through motor= less power
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Also, I believe that magnets lose some of their strenght when they are hot.
This has been my thought....
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Have you guys tried the new trinity Monster Stock motor!!! ITS BALLISTIC!! faster then a GM3!
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