NEW XRAY T2
#1156
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Originally Posted by VenomWorldOrder
that is the dumbest response ever! i love xray as a touring car (not in a weird way ) but why don't they just offer the strap for free/with kit?
too many companies offer no choice??? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ON ABOUT??!!
this is the dumbest/smartest money maker xray has come up with. i've heard endlessly "straps tweek the car" but all i see is every 05 owner and his dog with either a official strap or a hacked up job on their car.
PLEASE XRAY.... you're lucky you have sheepishly obedient owners, and a exquisite product to match
i'm not racing until i get my T2. the FK04 is retired
too many companies offer no choice??? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ON ABOUT??!!
this is the dumbest/smartest money maker xray has come up with. i've heard endlessly "straps tweek the car" but all i see is every 05 owner and his dog with either a official strap or a hacked up job on their car.
PLEASE XRAY.... you're lucky you have sheepishly obedient owners, and a exquisite product to match
i'm not racing until i get my T2. the FK04 is retired
I'd personally be more upset being forced to pay for something I didn't intend on using...
Even on my FK05 I was thinking of giving up onthe battery strap and going back to tape...same story with a few others I've seen...
Don't for a second assume that straps could or would be included 'free' in the kit....the price of the strap would be included in the purchase price...the material isn't 'free' the machining time to manufacture the components isn't 'free' the hardware isn't 'free'....so the strap, either included in the kit, or sold separately couldn't be done for 'free'...
#1157
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the FK04 came with 2 battery straps FREE no extra charge
I cant think of any onroad cars on the market that dont come with a strap unless its not posible to put one on
i love the xrays they are top cars but ffs they rip us off left right and centre their parts are twice the price of HPI and Associated wht cause they can
i say free straps to your loyal customers
I cant think of any onroad cars on the market that dont come with a strap unless its not posible to put one on
i love the xrays they are top cars but ffs they rip us off left right and centre their parts are twice the price of HPI and Associated wht cause they can
i say free straps to your loyal customers
#1158
ChrisP, you are right, but somehow the parts in the kit are much cheaper than the spare parts you buy. If you add up all the parts the kit contains and calculate with the spare parts prices I guess the sum is about 800-1000$. So probably the strap would increase the kit price by 10$ but as an option part you have to pay 30+ for it.
I read somewhere that the FK05 strap fit if you mount it backwards... I don't know for sure. Teamgp, help us out please...
I read somewhere that the FK05 strap fit if you mount it backwards... I don't know for sure. Teamgp, help us out please...
Last edited by cvt01; 01-04-2006 at 06:22 AM.
#1159
ChrisP with that logic you might as well not include the shocks. alot of people hate them and go to tamiya, bugger it, lets just tell xray to have no shocks, and to "GIVE US THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE" and the kits would be cheaper
dude, it's called cognitive disonance. you're (and most other xray buyers) are experiencing conflicting thoughts (ie; "shyt! they ripped me off, now i have to buy it!") and to calm your conflicting opinions you make up weak excuses like "i don't need it, i use tape, i use a badger straped to the car, my cats tail does the job nicely etc
ADMIT IT, WE GOT A KILLER KIT! BUT WE GOT JIPED ON THE STRAP!... AGAIN!
they'll include it in the FK kit, or the "freedom of choice" kit and people will be like "wow! something for free!"
dude, it's called cognitive disonance. you're (and most other xray buyers) are experiencing conflicting thoughts (ie; "shyt! they ripped me off, now i have to buy it!") and to calm your conflicting opinions you make up weak excuses like "i don't need it, i use tape, i use a badger straped to the car, my cats tail does the job nicely etc
ADMIT IT, WE GOT A KILLER KIT! BUT WE GOT JIPED ON THE STRAP!... AGAIN!
they'll include it in the FK kit, or the "freedom of choice" kit and people will be like "wow! something for free!"
#1160
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Originally Posted by the_barbarian
the FK04 came with 2 battery straps FREE no extra charge
I cant think of any onroad cars on the market that dont come with a strap unless its not posible to put one on
i love the xrays they are top cars but ffs they rip us off left right and centre their parts are twice the price of HPI and Associated wht cause they can
i say free straps to your loyal customers
I cant think of any onroad cars on the market that dont come with a strap unless its not posible to put one on
i love the xrays they are top cars but ffs they rip us off left right and centre their parts are twice the price of HPI and Associated wht cause they can
i say free straps to your loyal customers
And even on the FK04 and prior cars people had custom chassis made to allow them to tape batteries in...
the FT TC4 has an aftermarket strap, the Hot Bodies Cyclone and Tamiya 415MSX don't allow for a strap at all...
The individual parts prices for the Xray cars may seem high, but when you factor in the rate you need to replace them vs some other kits, you'll find that the overallcost of ownership is actually quite good....
I'm sure that Xray could produce less expensive parts that require changing moreoften as well....I doubt that would satisfy the market though
Personally, I'm rather shocked and impressed with the pricing on the T2 staying so close to that of the FK05, considering that a MAJOR investment in tooling was required.
#1161
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I for one am glad they didnt include the strap. It saves me 20 bucks on the cost of the kit.
And the parts for xray might cost a little more than for the AE cars and such but thet last 5 times longer. Before I owned an xray I had a differnet car in which parts such as arms and stuff needed replaced bi weekly to keep the car slop free. I have never replaced an arm on my xray and there is very little if any slop in them after 5 months of racing it.
And the parts for xray might cost a little more than for the AE cars and such but thet last 5 times longer. Before I owned an xray I had a differnet car in which parts such as arms and stuff needed replaced bi weekly to keep the car slop free. I have never replaced an arm on my xray and there is very little if any slop in them after 5 months of racing it.
#1162
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Originally Posted by VenomWorldOrder
ChrisP with that logic you might as well not include the shocks. alot of people hate them and go to tamiya, bugger it, lets just tell xray to have no shocks, and to "GIVE US THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE" and the kits would be cheaper
dude, it's called cognitive disonance. you're (and most other xray buyers) are experiencing conflicting thoughts (ie; "shyt! they ripped me off, now i have to buy it!") and to calm your conflicting opinions you make up weak excuses like "i don't need it, i use tape, i use a badger straped to the car, my cats tail does the job nicely etc
ADMIT IT, WE GOT A KILLER KIT! BUT WE GOT JIPED ON THE STRAP!... AGAIN!
they'll include it in the FK kit, or the "freedom of choice" kit and people will be like "wow! something for free!"
dude, it's called cognitive disonance. you're (and most other xray buyers) are experiencing conflicting thoughts (ie; "shyt! they ripped me off, now i have to buy it!") and to calm your conflicting opinions you make up weak excuses like "i don't need it, i use tape, i use a badger straped to the car, my cats tail does the job nicely etc
ADMIT IT, WE GOT A KILLER KIT! BUT WE GOT JIPED ON THE STRAP!... AGAIN!
they'll include it in the FK kit, or the "freedom of choice" kit and people will be like "wow! something for free!"
#1163
What type of tape is best for strapping down the battery?
#1165
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wish i could save money on the T2 its here but at $638au im not interested in getting it then to have to spend another $50au on a crappy strap cause tape shits me $688AU car hmm http://www.xe.com/ucc/ $511.86USD
for a toy car i can get 2 FK05s here second hand for $600 with straps and motor gaurds
for a toy car i can get 2 FK05s here second hand for $600 with straps and motor gaurds
#1167
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Originally Posted by the_barbarian
i love the xrays they are top cars but ffs they rip us off left right and centre their parts are twice the price of HPI and Associated wht cause they can
#1168
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I have a pro4 and ill tell you straight I f*%king hate the car its fast as but a little tap and bang there goes a c-hub arm or some other bloody part
so you I get what your saying I only use the Pro4 in 540 its harder to break
but at the same time over hear in Australia we get ripped off so much with RC its freaking rediculus
1 FK05 arm at my local hobby shop $13au
a pair of HPI Pro4 arms $9
a protoform shell is $45 here
things like hudy lathes omg $500 or the hudy tyre truer man you have no idea what the pricing of RC is doing to us over here
so you I get what your saying I only use the Pro4 in 540 its harder to break
but at the same time over hear in Australia we get ripped off so much with RC its freaking rediculus
1 FK05 arm at my local hobby shop $13au
a pair of HPI Pro4 arms $9
a protoform shell is $45 here
things like hudy lathes omg $500 or the hudy tyre truer man you have no idea what the pricing of RC is doing to us over here
#1169
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Ok.....but you've just rambled off a bunch of different brands with inflated prices in Australia...how is that Xray's fault?
I feel your pain....pricing in Canada was high at one point too...but with more dedicated suppliers and distributors in Canada and shops unwilling to accept 'dealer prices' from the 'major US distributors' that were higher than what US street prices were our prices have begun to fall to the point where pricing in Canada can be competitive with the US.
This really doesn't have much to do with the T2 though....perhaps a 'Why is stuff so darn expensive in Australia?' thread....might even be able to uncover some ways to help improve the situation...
I agree though..I see a lot of Australians buying in the US and having parts shipped halfway aroud the world for significant savings vs buying locally....that really shouldn't be necessary...
I feel your pain....pricing in Canada was high at one point too...but with more dedicated suppliers and distributors in Canada and shops unwilling to accept 'dealer prices' from the 'major US distributors' that were higher than what US street prices were our prices have begun to fall to the point where pricing in Canada can be competitive with the US.
This really doesn't have much to do with the T2 though....perhaps a 'Why is stuff so darn expensive in Australia?' thread....might even be able to uncover some ways to help improve the situation...
I agree though..I see a lot of Australians buying in the US and having parts shipped halfway aroud the world for significant savings vs buying locally....that really shouldn't be necessary...
#1170
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Originally Posted by the_barbarian
I have a pro4 and ill tell you straight I f*%king hate the car its fast as but a little tap and bang there goes a c-hub arm or some other bloody part
so you I get what your saying I only use the Pro4 in 540 its harder to break
but at the same time over hear in Australia we get ripped off so much with RC its freaking rediculus
1 FK05 arm at my local hobby shop $13au
a pair of HPI Pro4 arms $9
a protoform shell is $45 here
things like hudy lathes omg $500 or the hudy tyre truer man you have no idea what the pricing of RC is doing to us over here
so you I get what your saying I only use the Pro4 in 540 its harder to break
but at the same time over hear in Australia we get ripped off so much with RC its freaking rediculus
1 FK05 arm at my local hobby shop $13au
a pair of HPI Pro4 arms $9
a protoform shell is $45 here
things like hudy lathes omg $500 or the hudy tyre truer man you have no idea what the pricing of RC is doing to us over here
there is a old saying that I live by. It goes like this
Pay a little cry alot
Pay alot only cry one time